or Connect
HotStockMarket › Forums › Community › Politics › Gingrich fears 'Atheist country ... dominated by radical Islamists'
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Gingrich fears 'Atheist country ... dominated by radical Islamists'

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 

rotfl.gif  Newt.. buddy... it can't be Atheist and Islamic at the same time.  You need to choose which fear you want to monger.

 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/28/gingrich-fears-atheist-country-dominated-by-radical-islamists 

 

Quote:

Hours after declaring Sunday that he expects to be running for president within a month, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said he's worried the United States could be “a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists,” in the foreseeable future, according to Politico.

Gingrich was addressing Cornerstone Church, a megachurch in San Antonio, Texas, led by the Rev. John Hagee, an influential leader among American evangelicals. Hagee's endorsement of then-presidential candidate John McCain in 2008 was plagued by controversy.

McCain ultimately rejected the endorsement over remarks Hagee had made about the Holocaust, in which he appeared to say that Adolf Hitler had been fulfilling God's will by hastening the desire of Jews to return to Israel, in accordance with biblical prophecy.

"God says in Jeremiah 16: 'Behold, I will bring them the Jewish people again unto their land that I gave to their fathers. ... Behold, I will send for many fishers, and after will I send for many hunters. And they the hunters shall hunt them.' That would be the Jews,” Hagee had said in an earlier sermon.

“Then God sent a hunter,” his sermon continued. “A hunter is someone who comes with a gun, and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter."

McCain rejected Hagee’s endorsement of his campaign after learning about the comments in May 2008. "Obviously, I find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible, and I repudiate them,” McCain said at the time.

Hagee then withdrew his endorsement of the Arizona senator, which he had offered three months earlier.

One irony of McCain rejecting Hagee’s endorsement over his Holocaust remarks is that the Texas evangelist leads the Christian Zionist movement. Hagee is founder and national chairman of Christians United for Israel, which features Elie Wiesel and other Holocaust survivors at its events.

Here’s what Gingrich said at Cornerstone Church on Sunday evening, according to Politico:

"I have two grandchildren: Maggie is 11; Robert is 9," Gingrich said at Cornerstone Church here. "I am convinced that if we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America, by the time they're my age they will be in a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists and with no understanding of what it once meant to be an American."

The former House Speaker held up his own faith (he converted to Catholicism two years ago) as proof of his undying patriotism. He lashed out at the college professors and mainstream media he says are seeking to wipe out the Founding Fathers' Christian values. And he targeted the judges who he charges are effectively re-writing the Constitution.

But Gingrich was mum on his own controversial past, one of martial indiscretions and divorces that have made courting religious conservatives a tall task as he nears a likely presidential run.

Gingrich’s church appearance comes amid a broader campaign to court religious conservatives.

On Monday, Hagee released a statement praising Gingrich's appearance at Cornerstone. “It was such a great honor to welcome Mr. Gingrich to our church, and hear him describe the centrality of faith in our nation,” he said.

The statement also included praise for Hagee and his wife, Diana, from Gingrich.

“It was truly an honor to be with John and Diana at Cornerstone," Gingrich said. "Their dedication to serve is inspirational.”

 

post #2 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by enickma View Post

rotfl.gif  Newt.. buddy... it can't be Atheist and Islamic at the same time.  You need to choose which fear you want to monger.

 

 

 

 

I caught that last night. Classic.

 

 

post #3 of 29

Cuckoo cuckoo

 

I just love polticians that on moral values that have afairs outside of their marriage.

post #4 of 29

I think Gingrich is just trying to become relevant again. He probably doesn't get as much money as he once did, so figures he needs to revive his name recognition among the masses and then charge higher speaking fees, or something.

 

He doesn't stand much of a chance in the Republican primary.

post #5 of 29
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baggi View Post

I think Gingrich is just trying to become relevant again. He probably doesn't get as much money as he once did, so figures he needs to revive his name recognition among the masses and then charge higher speaking fees, or something.

 

He doesn't stand much of a chance in the Republican primary.


I see Pawlenty as the nominee

 

post #6 of 29

I don't. He's not tough enough.

 

He talks too much like a politician and I think the primary voters in the Republican party are looking for someone who will fight against the progressive movement with straight talk, like Chris Christie or Donald Trump.

 

That's not to say Trump or Christie would win the nomination. Both are outside the mainstream of primary Republican voters, only that primary voters are most likely looking for someone who speaks like they do.

 

Will be interesting, to say the least.

 

 

post #7 of 29
Thread Starter 

The annoying part is watching all these presidential wannabes suddenly believing that they need to weigh in on every little thing that happens to make themselves look better than each other and Obama.  Now every policial issue involves hearing how Tim Pawlenty, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, Michell Bachmann, Ron Paul, and Donald Trump would have done it differently.  Aside from the routine seeming more than a little disingenuous, it gives Obama an easy way to deflect criticism, as there are bound to be contradictory or opposite attacks from the republican hopefuls.  At least until the primaries are over, Obama gets to say, "Look, I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't".  Take Libya for example.  Some Republicans are saying Obama waited too long to act, others are saying he acted too fast, others are saying he should have done nothing.  Not that there's anything wrong with the candidates having differing opinions, but it makes the right look like they're not unified in their message, which is a political debuff Obama can use to his advantage.

post #8 of 29

I think we all can agree on one thing:

 

Sarah Palin will not be the Republican nominee.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #9 of 29

I would only agree with you if she doesn't run.

 

It looks like Bachmann is going to run though, and i'm sure they will do the same to her that they did to Palin.

post #10 of 29
Thread Starter 

Sarah Palin did it to herself.

post #11 of 29

And i'm sure you'll say the same about Michelle Bachmann.

post #12 of 29
Thread Starter 

Depends on what comes out of her mouth.. so far she's not doing herself any favors.

post #13 of 29



 

Quote:
Originally Posted by enickma View Post

rotfl.gif  Newt.. buddy... it can't be Atheist and Islamic at the same time.  You need to choose which fear you want to monger.

 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/28/gingrich-fears-atheist-country-dominated-by-radical-islamists 

 

 


You're right, atheists would be wiped out in a matter of days with the zealots in charge. I've seen their reaction to burning a book, I can't imagine the carnige upon finding out they had real live atheist neighbors.
eek.gif

 

post #14 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkeysmalls View Post



 


You're right, atheists would be wiped out in a matter of days with the zealots in charge. I've seen their reaction to burning a book, I can't imagine the carnige upon finding out they had real live atheist neighbors.
eek.gif

 


 

 

I'm sure there is some kind of '72 extra virgins bonus' they will get for taking out atheist infidels....kinda like the bonus' you get in super mario or in donkey kong.

 

 

 

-w

post #15 of 29

That actually is a frightening thought...
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkeysmalls View Post



 


You're right, atheists would be wiped out in a matter of days with the zealots in charge. I've seen their reaction to burning a book, I can't imagine the carnige upon finding out they had real live atheist neighbors.
eek.gif

 



 

post #16 of 29

I think the bonus is that those 72 40 year old male virgins will all have WoW accounts...
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf825 View Post




 

 

I'm sure there is some kind of '72 extra virgins bonus' they will get for taking out atheist infidels....kinda like the bonus' you get in super mario or in donkey kong.

 

 

 

-w



 

post #17 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by enickma View Post

rotfl.gif  Newt.. buddy... it can't be Atheist and Islamic at the same time.  You need to choose which fear you want to monger.

 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/28/gingrich-fears-atheist-country-dominated-by-radical-islamists 

 

 



I'm with Newt on this one.  I see little difference between the two.

Both rant.  Both generally get vile in their beliefs.

And both want your head where the sun don't shine.

A-holes or Islamic hell.

 

 

 

 

post #18 of 29

Yeah...I've never come across a Christian (or any subcategory thereof) who was an a-hole or sanctimonious. I've also never seen a Christian get violent, lie, commit adultery, molested children, judge or condemn anyone for not believing what they did.
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Techunter View Post





I'm with Newt on this one.  I see little difference between the two.

Both rant.  Both generally get vile in their beliefs.

And both want your head where the sun don't shine.

A-holes or Islamic hell.

 

 

 

 



 

post #19 of 29



 

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmm...Jaz View Post

Yeah...I've never come across a Christian (or any subcategory thereof) who was an a-hole or sanctimonious. I've also never seen a Christian get violent, lie, commit adultery, molested children, judge or condemn anyone for not believing what they did.
 



 



Nor did they do those things because the "Teachings-of-Christ" told them to.....

.... Or slip into something a little more comfortable, like maybe, C-4 Underpants?

 

 

Your context is sanctimoniously skewed.

 

 

 

 

post #20 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Techunter View Post



 



Nor did they do those things because the "Teachings-of-Christ" told them to.....

.... Or slip into something a little more comfortable, like maybe, C-4 Underpants?

 

 

Your context is sanctimoniously skewed.

 

 

 

 


That radical percentage justifies its action with their interpretation of the Koran.  Plenty of others have justified extreme acts of violence and murder all throughout history with your bible.  Even in your post you generalize atheist as having their head stuck up their ass and Muslims as people who want your head cut off. 

 


I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.  Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.  ~Mahatma Gandhi

 

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Politics
HotStockMarket › Forums › Community › Politics › Gingrich fears 'Atheist country ... dominated by radical Islamists'