This is What I Mean When I say - Page 2

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Originally Posted by Internationalstocks 

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Originally Posted by vlandsponger 

 

don't worry Bassix...since you don't know Arabic and you don't want to seek the truth..then you don't have to worry about it...

 

Palestinians CELEBRATING:

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4041106,00.html
 

Hamas saying one thing in ENGLISH...

Hamas saying an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT thing in Arabic...

 

http://bigpeace.com/amutarjim/2011/03/14/hamas-praises-savage-attack-on-jewish-settlers-in-arabic-denies-responsibility-in-english/

 

its called TAQIYA Bassix...go read about it...

Like every story there are two sides to a story and like every game there are two different sides cheering for their own.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMzc1N1Cx3s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FABqq_jjRRo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5svI7AZ9RY&feature=related

your first link is of Israelis cheering after the Turkish "aid" ship was captured...

your second link is of Jews cheering in NYC....so why did Israel attack Gaza in this clip? Did Israel decide to just attack for no reason?

your second link is of jews praising Israel for defending itself...

so can you tell me how ANY of your "jews celebrating" videos even COMPARE to Palestinians cheering for the MURDERS of a family?

keep trying to portray Palestinians as "victims"......maybe you should tell people WHY Israel retaliates in the first place...you never hear about the rockets shot into Israel prior to the Israel bombings do you?

go take your "victim" card elsewhere

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Originally Posted by Internationalstocks 

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Originally Posted by vlandsponger 

your first link is of Israelis cheering after the Turkish "aid" ship was captured...

 

your second link is of Jews cheering in NYC....so why did Israel attack Gaza in this clip? Did Israel decide to just attack for no reason?

 

your second link is of jews praising Israel for defending itself...

 

 

so can you tell me how ANY of your "jews celebrating" videos even COMPARE to Palestinians cheering for the MURDERS of a family?

 

 

 

keep trying to portray Palestinians as "victims"......maybe you should tell people WHY Israel retaliates in the first place...you never hear about the rockets shot into Israel prior to the Israel bombings do you?

 

go take your "victim" card elsewhere

1)1st video,people were killed on that ship and I see people cheering.
2) 2nd video,people in the Gaza attack were also killed by bombs and missiles. Those that dies in their homes from the missiles and bombs that landed on them were also murdered.

Victims from both sides will always exist. You make it sound like the only victims that exist are the Israeli ones and I point out to you that there are victims on both sides. You also point out that the only murderers are the Palestinians and those that died had died to to retaliation because they basically deserved retaliation which is complete BS if you don't allow the same principal to apply yo both sides.
 

READ THIS:

The jury of public opinion is so much FASTER!

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Originally Posted by Baggi 

I think the authorities are a little more nuanced in their hatred of Israel and the West. They realize that continue to dupe those people who think they aren't murderous bastards, they have to speak certain soothing words to the world to at least give the preface that they are trying.

 

The populace doesn't have to worry about that. They can go out and celebrate and not worry or care what the rest of the world says. It's why they aren't in the leadership of their nation. They don't understand politics.

 

As to the majority, this is an example of what leads me to believe the majority supports these kinds of actions.

 

If an abortion clinic gets bombed in the United States (I wonder how long it's been since that happened) Christians, even inbred, knuckle dragging, idiots who Obama says clings to their religion and their guns, don't hold a parade in honor of the killers. Instead, they are ashamed and they go on television and they cry and the offer solace to the dead and they point to the killers as crazy nutjobs not reflective of other Christians.

 

I think it's a pretty safe bet that if a society holds a public celebration, the members of that society understand that such a celebration will not bring about repercussions because the majority agrees with it, or at least doesn't find it so objectionable as to be appalled by those celebrating.

 

Duping people is only your assumption and extrapolation.  This example you speak of is in a hotzone.  But you use them to depict what the majority think?  That's a nice stretch.  

The funny thing is that there are fundamentalist christians out there who probably do say they are happy the abortion doc is dead, but probably only say it in close company.  In fact, the anonymity of the internet has guaranteed that folks will say what they feel without getting dinged for it.  Take a look at any news media site and take a look at the comments section.  Lots of vile crap from both sides.  

But again?  What is the majority?  Are the majority the muslims in Palestine or are the majority the rest of the muslims in the world?  

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Originally Posted by vlandsponger 

 

don't worry Bassix...since you don't know Arabic and you don't want to seek the truth..then you don't have to worry about it...

 

Palestinians CELEBRATING:

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4041106,00.html
 

Hamas saying one thing in ENGLISH...

Hamas saying an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT thing in Arabic...

 

http://bigpeace.com/amutarjim/2011/03/14/hamas-praises-savage-attack-on-jewish-settlers-in-arabic-denies-responsibility-in-english/

 

its called TAQIYA Bassix...go read about it...

Yup, I don't know Arabic, but neither do you, so what makes you more qualified?  

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Originally Posted by Internationalstocks 

What was done to this child and family is not acceptable and is inhumane and immoral but just so that you know the guy who flies a jet in the air and drops missiles on Palestinian civilians and kills children and families in their home is just as sick as this person is. That poor baby was unable to defend its self from this sick intruder who entered and kill the baby and family. The actions of this person are uncalled for. Do remember though that the Israelis commit the same crimes but on a larger scale. When you drop weapons,bombs and missiles knowing that a civilian population lies where you are dropping these so called weapons,bombs and missiles a baby who receives this missile on the other end dies in the same miserable way. I condemn both killers for these actions.

Here is what Israel does in return to add fuel to the current fire between the 2 sides:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42066001...deastn_africa/

Abbas denounced the killings:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12730403

Instead of working with the Palestinians and Americans on the peace plan and removing settlements they decide to add more settlements to stir more trouble up. You can't possible say that adding these settlements show that they are wanting peace. The difference here is the action of the killing that occurred was the action of most likely a sick person but the action of further provocation and stalling of the peace plan is the action of the Israeli government. We know that what the person did was wrong but is the action of the continuation of illegal settlements right??

What is interesting to note here is that when one Palestinian does something wrong the bombings and killings are justified even when innocent people die but no matter what the other side does heaven forbid anyone does anything wrong. Remember, those that fly them planes and drop missiles and bombs on Gaza were also considered national heroes

This isn't about the settlement.  You keep bringing up israelis.  It's about a family that was murdered.  We aren't talking about planes dropping bombs here.  We're talking about 2 guys that came in and murdered a family in cold blood and killed an infant.  There's absolutely no reason to bring israel into this and what they purportedly do.

uhhh

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Originally Posted by Bassix 

Yup, I don't know Arabic, but neither do you, so what makes you more qualified?  

I never claimed to be qualified..

so since you now admit that you're not qualified then what makes you question the articles accuracy?

my guess is that you simply dont WANT to believe it so you choose to deny it.......

thats a great way to be called "biased"....should I call you that?

now since you admit you are not qualified then as of right now you would have to assume the article translated it correctly...now since thats the case, would you like to tell us what you think about the the obvious "taqiya" being pointed out in this article...

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Originally Posted by Internationalstocks 

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Originally Posted by vlandsponger 

 

don't worry Bassix...since you don't know Arabic and you don't want to seek the truth..then you don't have to worry about it...

 

Palestinians CELEBRATING:

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4041106,00.html
 

Hamas saying one thing in ENGLISH...

Hamas saying an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT thing in Arabic...

 

http://bigpeace.com/amutarjim/2011/03/14/hamas-praises-savage-attack-on-jewish-settlers-in-arabic-denies-responsibility-in-english/

 

its called TAQIYA Bassix...go read about it...

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Originally Posted by Bassix 

This isn't about the settlement.  You keep bringing up israelis.  It's about a family that was murdered.  We aren't talking about planes dropping bombs here.  We're talking about 2 guys that came in and murdered a family in cold blood and killed an infant.  There's absolutely no reason to bring israel into this and what they purportedly do.

 

I did not start this but was responding to the post #4 which mentioned Palestinians celebrating. Only point was to show that one can find people celebrating on both sides meaning wrong things can not only be found on one side.


 

you can find Israelis celebrating the INTENTIONAL MURDER of families? really? REALLY?

you DO understand that the coward palestinian militants hide IN schools, IN homes...AROUND families using them as "human shields"...its very unfortunate that women/children are killed but when militants HIDE next to a child and that child ALLOWS the militant to hide there then there is bound to be some "accidental" women/children deaths...

that is COMPLETELY different than militants breaking into a home and MURDERING a family!

but we know that you side with Islam...we know that Muslim organizations such as the Muslim Brotherhood and now the Muslim Student Association will "DIE" to spread their religion...I understand where you're coming from...its a part of your life...its something that you HAVE to follow (just like Sharia Law) otherwise you are NOT a true muslim....am I right or am I right?

if you want to say im wrong then by all means do it..but back it up with some kind of fact.....my fact here is that Sharia law is REQUIRED in Islam...my other fact is that the muslim brotherhood has SAID they will die to spread Islam and the Muslim Student Association has a watered down version but essentially the same thing as the brotherhoods "pledge"...don't believe me? look it up