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post #1 of 123
Thread Starter 

Now that we're past the mid-point of Obama's term I thought it would be interesting to see everyone's predictions of what's to come in 2012.  Hopefully we can bump this as we get closer to the election and see how everyone's predictions turn out.

 

At this point I think Obama most likely will be re-elected.  If you would have asked me a year ago I would have probably said no but considering the government and the feds actions in the past year I'm more confident in the short term outlook of the economy.  The emergence of the tea-party has been huge for the Democrats.  Depending on the candidate that the Republicans nominate it could be an even bigger break for the Democrats.  If they were to select a Regan/Bush/Mccain type candidate you could expect a many of the tea party to go third party. 

 

I'll say..

 

Obama-45%

Gingrich-42%

Third Party/Tea-Party-13%

 

Discuss...

post #2 of 123

On my online betting site the odds are heavily in favor of Obama winning.  After him it's Palin, Mitt Romney then tied for forth is Clinton, Huckabee, Biden, and Portman.

post #3 of 123

I think at this point it all depends on who the Republican nominee is.

 

If it's another McCain, Obama will win.

 

If it's someone more like Sarah Palin, Obama will lose.

post #4 of 123

It's all about jobs.

 

If Obama wins the jobs/economy fight, Obama will be re-elected.

 

If the Republicans succeed in dragging down the economy (such as they did by stamping their feet to get their way over repealing Bush II Tax Cuts for the Sinfully Rich), any Republican candidate will win (assuming s/he does not pick Palin as a running mate, as she is a proven loser and quite the clown).

post #5 of 123

After all that foot stamping and getting your 1% way... you'd think there'd be a lot more jobs a tricklin' down by now, no?

 

In fact, didn't the Republicans just make a historic move in Wisconsin to take away workers' collective bargaining rights, which will make the few jobs that are currently available even more unstable (as if squeezing the life out of everyone who still has a job hasn't been enough).

 

Ya, I'm gonna guess Obama wins in 2012.

post #6 of 123

I will say none of the above and go out on a limb here. Ron Paul for 2012 banana.gif

 

Screw these illegal war loving Republicans that drive the economy into the ground, and keep corrupt CEO's filling their wallets to Jerusalem supported Democrats, spending all our money, and not living up to promises.

 

Ron Paul will make his own party. Its called Utopion. There will be world peace, the government will work for the people (not the other way around), 9/11 truth will finally be revealed, mom and pop stores will thrive once again, the stock market will be larger than ever, and we all can sleep soundly at night knowing that we wont one day be bombed by China...Ooooo wouldn't that be nice.

 

In all seriousness. It will probably be Obama. That's the best we got for now.

post #7 of 123

If Ron Paul runs he has my vote. 

post #8 of 123

Unless something major changes or happens, Obama has his 2nd term in the bag, no matter who the Republicans run.

post #9 of 123

Doesn't matter who is elected--we're all still f----d...

 

 

 

......and the machine of lies and deception and ignorance continues to spin its wheels going nowhere & doing nothing but 'looking pretty'..

 

 

 

-w

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Originally Posted by wolf825 View Post

Doesn't matter who is elected--we're all still f----d...

 

 

 

......and the machine of lies and deception and ignorance continues to spin its wheels going nowhere & doing nothing but 'looking pretty'..

 

 

 

-w

 

So the question is, how do we get someone from outside the box elected?  Not only president but in all aspects of the government?  How do we get the people that really care about the country, that aren't multi-millionaires elected? 

 

Say I wanted to run for some type of office, where do I start?  That is the question for millions of potential candidates.  Until we start electing everyday people, the establishment will never change.

post #11 of 123
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Originally Posted by NoJobRob View Post

If Ron Paul runs he has my vote. 



likewise, or any other independent, although I would give Romney a shot if an independent doesn't make it.

post #12 of 123

same here...
 

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Originally Posted by NoJobRob View Post

If Ron Paul runs he has my vote. 



 

post #13 of 123

It's too early to tell.

 

I'll be back once the primaries start.

post #14 of 123
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Originally Posted by wolf825 View Post

Doesn't matter who is elected--we're all still f----d...

 

 

 

......and the machine of lies and deception and ignorance continues to spin its wheels going nowhere & doing nothing but 'looking pretty'..

 

 

 

-w



It's not the elected, but, the deeply entrenched Bureaucrats and appointees and their hired minions

that keep the corrupt machine cranking.  Look at the problems G. Dub Jr. had when his people went

after deeply entrenched  Lawyers in the Justice dept and they tried to fire them.  It's impossible to get

rid of them!

 

Yeah, we're SCREWED.

 

 

 

 

post #15 of 123
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Slappified View Post


 

 

So the question is, how do we get someone from outside the box elected?  Not only president but in all aspects of the government?  How do we get the people that really care about the country, that aren't multi-millionaires elected? 

 

Say I wanted to run for some type of office, where do I start?  That is the question for millions of potential candidates.  Until we start electing everyday people, the establishment will never change.


We can never get someone from outside the box elected as long as the two parties maintain control.  It's the root of everything that is wrong with our system.  The only way they can maintain power is if we are voting for reasons other than how this politician actual performs.  We aren't voting on healthcare plans, or budget proposals, or foreign policy.  If we actually were then how in the hell can we be electing these politicians?  Not only that we are RE-ELECTING them!!!!  

 

It's all made possible because we are voting for things that do not matter.  We are voting for a R so a D doesn't assume control and vice-versa.  Each political party does nothing but highlight the negatives of the other.  It's the most effective way to make sure you will vote for them.  They mislead us to believe that each side represents an ideology and not simply a group of politicians.   Every discussion becomes political and so in turn we have no real solutions. 

 

Our solutions are nothing but BS that satisfy the politicians in power and big business in general.  But the plan is so perfect....No matter how bad they perform they will always be backed up by half the country simply because of the letter behind their name. 

 

 

 

post #16 of 123

for the obamatomatons, i will bet he doesnt get re-elected..


 

post #17 of 123
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Originally Posted by NoJobRob View Post

If Ron Paul runs he has my vote. 



Mine also.

 

IMO this proves the whole election crap is rigged. Everyone I know says they would vote for him. Same as last tiem he ran. But then "polls" come out and the media swears he only has 2% of the vote or some BS.

 

Obama better not get re-elected.  I'd rather have Donald Trump win LOL

 

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Mine also.

 

IMO this proves the whole election crap is rigged. Everyone I know says they would vote for him. Same as last tiem he ran. But then "polls" come out and the media swears he only has 2% of the vote or some BS.

 

Obama better not get re-elected.  I'd rather have Donald Trump win LOL

 



Fox News - Fair and balanced, hates Ron Paul, so there is no way you can win without the backing of the Republican propaganda machine.

 

Watch the first 60seconds of this clip to see the crowd reaction that Fox News played when announcing Ron Paul as the winner of the 2011 Straw Poll.

 

Lots of booing, looks like they dont like Ron Paul, except that is footage from 2010 they are trying to pass off as 2011 crowd reactions.

 

Now skip to time index 4:40 to hear this years crowd reaction. Chanting "RON PAUL! RON PAUL!" they love him!

 

 

A few days later Fox News said "oh we made a mistake", you know, the file labeled RonPaul2010.avi was accidentally used instead of RonPaul2011.avi..  But by then nobody cares.

 

 

post #19 of 123
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Originally Posted by Gecko123 View Post




We can never get someone from outside the box elected as long as the two parties maintain control.  It's the root of everything that is wrong with our system.  The only way they can maintain power is if we are voting for reasons other than how this politician actual performs.  We aren't voting on healthcare plans, or budget proposals, or foreign policy.  If we actually were then how in the hell can we be electing these politicians?  Not only that we are RE-ELECTING them!!!!  

 

It's all made possible because we are voting for things that do not matter.  We are voting for a R so a D doesn't assume control and vice-versa.  Each political party does nothing but highlight the negatives of the other.  It's the most effective way to make sure you will vote for them.  They mislead us to believe that each side represents an ideology and not simply a group of politicians.   Every discussion becomes political and so in turn we have no real solutions. 

 

Our solutions are nothing but BS that satisfy the politicians in power and big business in general.  But the plan is so perfect....No matter how bad they perform they will always be backed up by half the country simply because of the letter behind their name. 

 

 

 



I posted my previous thoughts for two reasons. 

 

1. Just to show that no matter what we want, the establishment is going to give us what they want.  In all reality, we have no choice at all.  Along with the "dumbing down" of the schools, the elite are creating a slave class and we don't even realize it.  Similar to the analogy of how you cook a frog "throw him in a pot of boiling water and he will jump out, slowly turn the heat up and he will sit in there and cook to death."  They have convinced a great majority of the country its us against them and as long as our team wins we're happy even if they are just as bad as the other team.

 

2.  I really want to get into politics to help my state and the country.  I'm tired of the way things are going and I don't like the choices I get at election time.  So I've decided to do something about it.  The problem is that I believe Libertarian ideals more than any of the others, but if I run on that party ticket I know that I have almost no chance of winning.  So do I stand by my ideals and never get anything done or go the expediated route and run with the establishment where I could get elected and hopefully may a difference.  This doesn't even take in account trying to get the party nomination to run for office against people that have 100x more money than I do, along with lots of influential friends.  The Libertarians in all the races I've researched (past election) have only received about 1% of the vote and when running just against a Republican got only 18%.  Appears to be a lot of talk about change, but when it comes to the doing, its back to the status quo.

 

So I posted hoping to find encouragement (not for me, but for change in the system) and possibly some unintentional advice but the more I research the more I find that I don't think anything is going to change.

 

 

post #20 of 123

Obamao will not be re-elected.  The guy is a total failure.  He cannot lead, he cannot keep promises, and he doesn't have a clue as far as the economy is concerned.  If he is re-elected, then unfortunately, the entire country is a failure.

 

In fact, it will be lucky for him if he is even on the ballot in several states, lead by the great state of Arizona. 

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