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post #801 of 1279

Strategy for this is a big different. When you trading stock options you care about the how big the move is. With binary you just want to be in the money doesnt matter if its 25cents in the money or $25 in the money. at least that's the way i approach it. 

post #802 of 1279
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Originally Posted by o7media View Post

I have a couple of questions if any of you guys can answer them for me. Right now I only trade regular options (not binary). But been reading up a bit on binaries and want to get my feet wet.

 

From my understanding of the basics, you simply bet on whether the equity is going to move up or down in whichever time frame and expiry you choose, and as long as it expires ITM you make 70%? And if it expires OTM you lose 90%? Is that correct?

 

Also, I read that there are no fees, is that true? If not, what are the fees like?

 

Lastly, is there any type of paper trading platform/website for binary options? I'd like to practice this stuff first before putting money in? Anyone got a link?

 

Thanks!

o7media,

 

Please see my previous posts. My background is similar to your. I am an ex vanilla options trader and now day trade my own book. I have used up down platforms for 85% return but have been burnt a few times when withdrawing money or not getting a fill at the end of the hour. It comes down to heads or tails really. I use www.pyxmarkets.com for my binary trading.

 

FSA regulated, end of day options that you are not locked in to... I can sell a position when ever I want to take my profit or cut a loss. I select the range I believe the asset will close and the platform qoutes me a return in real time. The largest return I have been quoted for the FTSE to move just 20 points is 780% but their website does state that they do offer up to a 2000% return.

 

They also give you access to a demo account to test your strategies without risking your own funds.

post #803 of 1279

Sorry Datemike, just read your answers again. Also with PYX I can trade right in to the close if GOLD closes at 5pm I can get a trade away at 4.59 59

 

Free demo no deposit needed (Why would anyone deposit for a demo?) No withdrawal fee, they use an online payment company so all accounts are segregated from the companies.... massive plus for me as I was burnt by MFglobal.

post #804 of 1279

Ya its just sigh.........

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Originally Posted by LosPinos View Post

Sorry Datemike, just read your answers again. Also with PYX I can trade right in to the close if GOLD closes at 5pm I can get a trade away at 4.59 59

 

Free demo no deposit needed (Why would anyone deposit for a demo?) No withdrawal fee, they use an online payment company so all accounts are segregated from the companies.... massive plus for me as I was burnt by MFglobal.

 

From what i've on the PYX its a different you set boundaries. While 24op & etc most are just doing +/-. I wouldnt say 1 is better than other just different.

post #805 of 1279
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Originally Posted by Datemike View Post

Ya its just sigh.........

 

From what i've on the PYX its a different you set boundaries. While 24op & etc most are just doing +/-. I wouldnt say 1 is better than other just different.

Agreed very different.... life would be boring if we were all the same right?

 

I have no issues with up/downs at all just my experience with the companies running these platforms has'nt been great and has put me off a touch.

 

I have'nt been trading PYX long but have found it a great platform to use and have made decent money from it at the moment.... could all change at any time though, that what makes the market so addictive.

 

Out of curiosity which other up/down platforms have you used and which were good/ bad etc.

post #806 of 1279
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My short term SR's are based on fibos on m15 down to m5 chart. But calculating fibos is discretionary unlike pivots they are plotted automatically.

 

Are you using the 5 min chart as your trigger chart with the 15 min to confirm market direction? or do you mainly work off the 5 min chart?

post #807 of 1279
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Originally Posted by Datemike View Post

typically there is 2 expirations. 1 being end of the trading session & 1 being near term. You have to until 5 minutes before expiration to enter. example if expiration is 10:30 you must enter by 10:25.

 

The % have changed since the start. Before it was like 70% in the money 15% out of the money. now its more like average +80% in the money & always -0% out of the money.

No fees to put a trade on but most have $30 withdraw fee.

 

https://options.4xp.com is what i use, its free demo account. 24option which everyone here appears to be using wants a $250 deposit to run a demo account which is some fuckin bs.

 

4xp doesnt have forex trading until 1am~. 24option starts at 11pm~ i think.

 

They basically all use the same platform unless you using nandex which is kind of a different system not as simple.

 

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Originally Posted by LosPinos View Post

o7media,

 

Please see my previous posts. My background is similar to your. I am an ex vanilla options trader and now day trade my own book. I have used up down platforms for 85% return but have been burnt a few times when withdrawing money or not getting a fill at the end of the hour. It comes down to heads or tails really. I use www.pyxmarkets.com for my binary trading.

 

FSA regulated, end of day options that you are not locked in to... I can sell a position when ever I want to take my profit or cut a loss. I select the range I believe the asset will close and the platform qoutes me a return in real time. The largest return I have been quoted for the FTSE to move just 20 points is 780% but their website does state that they do offer up to a 2000% return.

 

They also give you access to a demo account to test your strategies without risking your own funds.

 

Thanks for the info guys.

 

I guess I read it wrong earlier, I thought binary options were basically all or nothing. I didn't know you could see early and cut losses or take profit. I thought the whole point was they had to expire ITM or OTM to see if you lost or made money on the trade.

 

How does it work if you're selling early? How much of a % do you make or lose?

post #808 of 1279

Well I set up a demo account at 4xp but it just keeps loading after I login. Won't do anything else confused.gif

 

Are there any other free paper/demo binary option accounts?

post #809 of 1279
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Originally Posted by o7media View Post

Well I set up a demo account at 4xp but it just keeps loading after I login. Won't do anything else confused.gif

 

Are there any other free paper/demo binary option accounts?

As I said, www.pyxmarkets.com offer a free demo which I traded for around two weeks before taking the plunge.

 

Works similar to vanilla options as the trade moves closer to expiry it moves towards 1 or zero. Ie, it heads from your trade value to either zero of the maximum gain they quoted you before you traded.

 

Lets say I trade £50 for gold to close between $1600-1620 with a return offered of £200, if at 12 noon gold was in my range then the option would be worth around £100 I could sell that to nick a profit. If it were the other way and I was out of the money at 12 noon then the option would only be worth circa £25 but I could still sell out to limit my losses.

 

Hope this helps.

post #810 of 1279
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Originally Posted by LosPinos View Post

As I said, www.pyxmarkets.com offer a free demo which I traded for around two weeks before taking the plunge.

 

Works similar to vanilla options as the trade moves closer to expiry it moves towards 1 or zero. Ie, it heads from your trade value to either zero of the maximum gain they quoted you before you traded.

 

Lets say I trade £50 for gold to close between $1600-1620 with a return offered of £200, if at 12 noon gold was in my range then the option would be worth around £100 I could sell that to nick a profit. If it were the other way and I was out of the money at 12 noon then the option would only be worth circa £25 but I could still sell out to limit my losses.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Thanks, unfortunately that only has the FTSE. I'm in the U.S... so I can't trade U.S. equities off pyxmarkets.com 

post #811 of 1279
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Originally Posted by o7media View Post

 

Thanks, unfortunately that only has the FTSE. I'm in the U.S... so I can't trade U.S. equities off pyxmarkets.com 

Oh okay apologies, I'm in Europe so it works for me.

 

I'm sure they will bring on US markets in the future. 

post #812 of 1279
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Originally Posted by LosPinos View Post

Oh okay apologies, I'm in Europe so it works for me.

 

I'm sure they will bring on US markets in the future. 

 

Thanks though. I guess I can still use it to learn the terms and how the trading works. And then just try it out on 24option or somewhere.

post #813 of 1279
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Originally Posted by o7media View Post

 

Thanks though. I guess I can still use it to learn the terms and how the trading works. And then just try it out on 24option or somewhere.

True, maybe worth using as a test bed. Not sure if 24 options offer the same kind of trading.... from my experience PYX is quite unique in its offering.

 

Could you not trade European assets with them or dont you touch Euro markets (not a bad call with whats happening in Spain and Greece)

post #814 of 1279

you got to this website. https://options.4xp.com

your metatrader # is your account number put that in.

put your password in *hint: type it correctly.

Click login.

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Originally Posted by o7media View Post

Well I set up a demo account at 4xp but it just keeps loading after I login. Won't do anything else confused.gif

 

Are there any other free paper/demo binary option accounts?

post #815 of 1279
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Originally Posted by LosPinos View Post

True, maybe worth using as a test bed. Not sure if 24 options offer the same kind of trading.... from my experience PYX is quite unique in its offering.

 

Could you not trade European assets with them or dont you touch Euro markets (not a bad call with whats happening in Spain and Greece)

 

I've never traded European equities. Only U.S. Not really looking to start either.

post #816 of 1279
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Originally Posted by o7media View Post

 

I've never traded European equities. Only U.S. Not really looking to start either.

Hahaha never say never. Although now would not be the best time to start.

 

I mix it up with some US stuff but really only two or three major equities that I trade plain vanilla (A habit that is hard to break).

 

Good luck anyway?

post #817 of 1279
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Originally Posted by Datemike View Post

you got to this website. https://options.4xp.com

your metatrader # is your account number put that in.

put your password in *hint: type it correctly.

Click login.

 

Keeps saying invalid login...but I am in the U.S. and 4xp isn't allowed for U.S. residents....so that might be why. I created another demo and that won't let me login either. confused.gif

post #818 of 1279
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Originally Posted by LosPinos View Post

Hahaha never say never. Although now would not be the best time to start.

 

I mix it up with some US stuff but really only two or three major equities that I trade plain vanilla (A habit that is hard to break).

 

Good luck anyway?

 

lol true.

 

someone told me that binary options are only offered on some stocks...the larger ones like AAPL, GOOG, etc. Is that true?

post #819 of 1279

ya only a handful of popular stocks, each site a bit different in what they offer.

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lol true.

 

someone told me that binary options are only offered on some stocks...the larger ones like AAPL, GOOG, etc. Is that true?

post #820 of 1279
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Originally Posted by Datemike View Post

ya only a handful of popular stocks, each site a bit different in what they offer.

 

Ah. Thanks. Prob not gonna do them then.

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