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nice profits!

 

hey Yasiel wink.gif, welcome and thanks !
 

 

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Cherry, you are in signapore right?  What time do you do your trading?  I have something I would love to test out based off of your binary strategy. 

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wink.gif hey thanks Demo24 !

 

there seems to be a lot of good vibe about BB.

But i just cant see beyond the fact that it is another "Gaming" site like the rest making a buck using the trading facade. Here i meant those names like AO, SO, GO, OB and many more. Maybe not SO since they got their marketpunter.com regulated.

Unless any one of them are regulated by SEC or NFA and god knows that other boards out there, we shouldnt be putting too much trust, faith and money into them. Just my skeptic feel cool.gif
 

Also i get comments like "BB is not trading against the users".

If you pay more attention on the way the spreads were being used in the fx pairs, you cant help but to think otherwise. again, maybe its just me rolleyes.gif

 



Trust me I was apprehensive of them as well but so far I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary. I primarily trade nasdaq futures, and on occasion other indexes or a couple stocks, so its possible things are different in FX. In this regard what I am seeing with BB is fairly consistent with my TDA streamer. It might lag 1-2 sec behind, but it is grabbing info from a secondary source so thats understandable. The one weird thing is that it lists the nasdaq future as slightly higher, like on TDA (2409.50) but on BB (2409.673), it's always consistently so and it does not seem to affect the end result. I've not had an issue with buying the binary at a price not on the streamer, so unless it just happens to change price at the last second they all have gone through so far at the price I was expecting. I'll be sure to update if I see anything out of the ordinary. 

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Cherry, you are in signapore right?  What time do you do your trading?  I have something I would love to test out based off of your binary strategy. 

wink.gif hey RBS !

 

primarily i trade from 1000 - 1300 EST.

Unless i have absolutely nothing to do in the day time, i'll watch for entry from 0200 - 0600 EST popcorn.gif
 

 

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Trust me I was apprehensive of them as well but so far I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary. I primarily trade nasdaq futures, and on occasion other indexes or a couple stocks, so its possible things are different in FX. In this regard what I am seeing with BB is fairly consistent with my TDA streamer. It might lag 1-2 sec behind, but it is grabbing info from a secondary source so thats understandable. The one weird thing is that it lists the nasdaq future as slightly higher, like on TDA (2409.50) but on BB (2409.673), it's always consistently so and it does not seem to affect the end result. I've not had an issue with buying the binary at a price not on the streamer, so unless it just happens to change price at the last second they all have gone through so far at the price I was expecting. I'll be sure to update if I see anything out of the ordinary. 

 

okay, whether BB is an online gaming site is another issue altogether.

But if you were to stick to equities or indices, i can frankly tell you that you have lesser odds stacked against you compare to those who trade FX exclusively.

 

This is how i see it.

Not one site is able to back their expiry quotes against Reuters's real time quotes. But they all said that their expiry quotes are "provided" by Reuters. Now we must understand that although they said these quotes are "provided" by Reuters, that doesnt mean they are using Reuters's quotes as expiry quotes, you get me ?

 

Trading FX

And comes expiry time, does the site immediately generate the expiry quotes out so that you'll know if you are ITM,ATM or OTM ?

 

If your open position is nearing ITM or OTM comes expiry time, i can bet my last dollar with you that the site would take more than 10 secs after the expiry time to generate the expiry rates. But if your position is already deep ITM or OTM, you'll get the expiry rates generated in a heart-beat. Seen this happened before ?

 

In the world of FX, split seconds define pips of profits and losses. That is why the site would always take the longest time to wait to generate the expiry rates. The best part, it is legit. Why? because the expiry time is let say at 12:00 EST. and they take the best quote they deem its right at 12:00:09 EST and use it. Are they wrong to do that ? No, as long as the real time quotes are taken before 12:01 EST, they are legit. See my point ?

 

Lastly, the reason why such sites had mushroomed across Europe is based on the fact that they are offering FX to the average user. With an account of $100 you can trade FX and get returns up to 81%. Not everyone sign up to trade the indicies and equities like us laughing.gif, they are homing in for the FX. And given the inherent volatile nature of FX, the site goes all out to exploit it using the "delayed" expiry time method.

 

That is why i am amused when i hear comments like "This or that site is not betting against the users" rotfl.gif rotfl.gifrotfl.gif. Sorry if i had digress and taken too much time, but like i said, its always better to be extra careful when trading with these sites, keep not one but both eyes open laughing.gif

 
 

 


Edited by cherrycoke - 5/1/11 at 3:00am
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Hey Cherry


Very well said. I think you've been in the game long enough to know what you are talking about. Dougie also did mention it (backed up with screenshots), ages ago.

Surely, there must be a way to counter it 'cos to every problem, there is a solution.
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If your open position is nearing ITM or OTM comes expiry time, i can bet my last dollar with you that the site would take more than 10 secs after the expiry time to generate the expiry rates. But if your position is already deep ITM or OTM, you'll get the expiry rates generated in a heart-beat. Seen this happened before ?

 

In the world of FX, split seconds define pips of profits and losses. That is why the site would always take the longest time to wait to generate the expiry rates. The best part, it is legit. Why? because the expiry time is let say at 12:00 EST. and they take the best quote they deem its right at 12:00:09 EST and use it. Are they wrong to do that ? No, as long as the real time quotes are taken before 12:01 EST, they are legit. See my point ?

 

 

 

 


I see your point and they send me an email for each position, some of them come a little faster than other ones. I would guess that a few more tricks might come with the FX side, which is why it pays out the best and has the most trading times. I get these are all gaming sites out to make money from someone just clicking buttons, so if you can make it work thats great and if not oh well. One reason I've taken my initial deposit out so now I can only lose what I've won smile.gif

 

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Hi CherryCoke,

Very interesting to read your posts, especially your journey in Binary options trading.

It seems that you tried a lot of brokers on that field and gain some good experience.

Have you tried Stockpair? They are introducing a new way of trading similar to binary options, dealing with relative performance of stocks, with even higher returns than the regular binary options.

I tried it for a while, and manage to get some nice returns on low risks investments.

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Hi CherryCoke,

Very interesting to read your posts, especially your journey in Binary options trading.

It seems that you tried a lot of brokers on that field and gain some good experience.

Have you tried Stockpair? They are introducing a new way of trading similar to binary options, dealing with relative performance of stocks, with even higher returns than the regular binary options.

I tried it for a while, and manage to get some nice returns on low risks investments.


laughing.gif you sounded like an account manager, PAIROPTIONS !!!

 

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No I am not :)

What do you think about it?

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laughing.gif you sounded like an account manager, PAIROPTIONS !!!

 


 

account managers can't write, can them ? rotfl.gif

 

 

By the way, re the discussion on Reuters - they claim that the expiry quotes are not only "provided by" Reuters wink.gif , but they are actually using the Reuters quotes ..

Anyone checked it? that would certain be a novelty..
 

 

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btw I just wanted to update that Bbinary did in fact credit me for the $15 transaction fee. It was fairly painless and the credit showed up instantly in my BBinary account. I'm having a little trouble getting my money out of the account but I've sent off another request so I should know today, hopefully they will do a withdrawal for me today. Most of the issues seem to be with anti-money laundering but it would be nice if they could streamline the process.

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They are for sure bucket shops, people make money in bucket shops. It's just sketch ball, I would never deposit a big amount there. 

 

On with this topic though, these are unregulated firms that can definetely just go ahead and say "thanks but no thanks" and stop doing business with you. I know a guy trading FOREX and even his broker did that! That's one of the reasons I'm pretty sketch about that David guys story of how he turned $1,000 into like $20,000 in a couple of weeks and then said he was friends with the CEO and got off the phone with him etc. Seems very odd.

 

I thought the NFA didn't allow binaries in the United States and now there is Banc De Binary which is in New York, I'm pretty confused -- but this might be illegal. 
 

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Maybe I'm the only one here who feels like this, but everytime I read about Cherry's binary success, I am reminded of Jesse Livermore in his early days at the bucketshops. For those of you who have not read "Reminiscences of a Stock Operator", first, you should, but having said that, the reasons that binaries are like bucketshops are:

 

1) Both binaries and bucket shops are basically places where the vast majority of investors lose money, because the odds are stacked against them (in binaries, with the payouts being less than 100%, and in bucketshops by the owners basically running prices against investors, once they had a sufficient number on one side of a trade)

2) Both B and BS never really expect to lose to the retail investor, but once they do start losing, they make rules about limits on bet sizes, or preventing people from taking money out easily, and finally they keep monitoring successful traders and finally prevent them from trading there (either by lowering the payout in the case of B, or by actually preventing traders from trading there (BS).

 

Good job Cherry, hopefully you can take money from optionbit until they stop letting you be there. Then the next thing I would do would be to open up accounts with your siblings, and then friends, and trade their money the same way, until optionbit catches on and bans you from trading there.

 

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I'm not dishing you, I'm really curious here. I noticed on one of your records a huge amount of your trades were in FX. You get 50:1 leverage there (more if you're Europe), and you can easily do what you are doing probably with an even better win ratio RR. You also don't have pattern day traders rule in Forex. 
 

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Hey RBS biggrin.gif !

 

i have intention to trade FX and commodities futures options. but for now with a little capital, binaries is all i can do. Besides, its simply a trade with a lifespan of only 60mins or lower. Theres no margin requirements or those intradays rules and what not. But i'll be looking forward to trade those bigger guns like you mentioned wink.gif.

 

And no, theres no LVS on any of the binary option sites out there frown.gif
 

 



 

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They are for sure bucket shops, people make money in bucket shops. It's just sketch ball, I would never deposit a big amount there. 

 

On with this topic though, these are unregulated firms that can definetely just go ahead and say "thanks but no thanks" and stop doing business with you. I know a guy trading FOREX and even his broker did that! That's one of the reasons I'm pretty sketch about that David guys story of how he turned $1,000 into like $20,000 in a couple of weeks and then said he was friends with the CEO and got off the phone with him etc. Seems very odd.

 

I thought the NFA didn't allow binaries in the United States and now there is Banc De Binary which is in New York, I'm pretty confused -- but this might be illegal. 
 


 


 

 

 

 

 

NY - nah, it is the address, but have you tried visiting Trump Tower and look for it ?

 

 

 

post #156 of 1305

I miss you cherry :)

post #157 of 1305
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hi all, i been busy scouring over the net for another broker and demo-ing with BDB at the same time that i neglected my "Live" account laughing.gif

 

Profits so far about $ 400 (5/7 ITM

 

OB still caps my trade limit to $200 per asset and $500 in total for open positions. 

Will update on my observations on the various brokers/sites that i tried for the past week.

 

 

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After the trouble I'm having getting my money out of BDB, I'm seriously considering working on get some more wins going and then doing a final withdrawal.


 

 

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NY - nah, it is the address, but have you tried visiting Trump Tower and look for it ?

 

 

 

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post #160 of 1305
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Hi CherryCoke,

Very interesting to read your posts, especially your journey in Binary options trading.

It seems that you tried a lot of brokers on that field and gain some good experience.

Have you tried Stockpair? They are introducing a new way of trading similar to binary options, dealing with relative performance of stocks, with even higher returns than the regular binary options.

I tried it for a while, and manage to get some nice returns on low risks investments.


why dont you start a thread on this. post screens shots of your trades.

it would be interesting.

i browsed through the site.

the impression is this, they paired those stocks like how FX does it. performance is relative to one another,right?

doesnt appeal to me or even make sense to me at all.

 

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