Are you Islamophobic? - Page 18  

you won't hear about this in the MSM...

and if you do...I wouldn't be surprised if they try and claim its a "christian" mosque LOL.....just like the "rhetoric" and this nutcase who went on a shooting spree..its all according to their agenda..facts dont matter

anyhow, I hope to hear something about this in the coming days/weeks...possibly an INVESTIGATION by maybe the DHS?

Looks like he has no problem visiting Canada now.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZw0aJO5FqQ

what a hero

and before you start using your tactic of name calling.....i would like someone to please tell me what (of those pictures I posted) is FACTUALLY incorrect about Islam...

vlandsponger, what the hell are you doing on a financial message board?? none of your posts are related to stocks.. are you even here to trade stocks and make money ??

are you the voice of peace?

Thread Title: Are you Islamophobic?
Forum: Politics & Religion



Alejandro...enlighten me:

Okay...I'll bite. How is this actually factual? There are (most likely) thousands of US companies that have Muslims employed in their staff. How should they be "cautious"?

I Agree with with on some points. There are some extremist Muslims and many more moderate ones. I completely disagree with the extremist Muslim views. Heck some of the things that you show don't even belong in Islam and are just a local and cultural rules of their local area.

Just so you know, Islam shares many ideologies of Christianity. Many of the Christian personalities you can find in the bible are represented well in the Quran such as Jesus and the Virgin Mary... but you're just too ignorant, like the people in the video I posted, to research and learn anything.

but honestly man, if you're not here to discuss stocks, you'd be better off to find a message board dedicated to your cause other than a financial message board to voice your beef with ISLAM.

what are "some of the things that you show"? details...because as much as I have read, ALL of those "things" are practiced in ISLAMIC COUNTRIES!

yes, christianity is similar to Judaism, except Jesus IS "God" in christianity...so whats your point?

oh and what are those "many ideologies"? I love details..

and do you know me? apparently you know me...because youre calling me ignorant and comparing me to a few uneducated people picked out to make a video...sounds like you're attempting to smear me...are you? what happened to being civil and discussing "things" in a polite manner? can you do that?

is this a threat? are you the boss of HSM? Like I posted in my prior post:

why would I discuss stocks in here? seems like you just want to silence me because I am posting "things" that you don't want others to know about Islam....

taxi drivers, kfc, disneyland, target, shall I also include Muslim Students and why "we" need to be cautious towards them as well?

good for him! and I like that the articles from 2004...how long did it take you to google that? curious..

because you are on the http://www.hotstockmarket.com/ domain..

DUHHH

none of your recent posts are about stocks which I find quite interesting.

I don't understand why the mods haven't rescinded your membership if you are not here to discuss stocks on hot STOCK MARKET .COM

Yes, you need to provide the "why". You have provided nothing factual other than your own disdain towards Muslims. And let's not parse meanings here. I am for the abolishment of the Islam religion, like I am for the abolishment of all religions. However, I am not for the abolishment of the people of Islam, or the people of Christianity, or the people of Scientology. Muslims are people just like Christians are. The majority of Muslims wish to live out their lives pursuing their dreams of a better life than what they have, making an honest living, and raising good children. Their ideologies, belief system, and customs may differ slightly than that of a Christian, but it does not warrant an exclusion of Muslims in society, and/or the discrimination of them.

you asked:
so I provided examples of Muslim employees using their religion to get their way
is this not factual? Muslims are the most thin skinned religious people out there...SAYING "pig" sets them off..As more and more Muslims realize that they can cry foul to get their way, they will..it is HAPPENING...should I bring up Europe, which is being over run by Muslims...




and Jaz..are you serious?????
are you suggesting that I AM FOR this?


here is what I AM FOR:

keeping church and state SEPARATE!
keeping Shariah Law OUT of our judicial system
NOT allowing religious groups to infringe upon others rights/beliefs
ALLOWING freedom of speech (even if its a Muslim man who says death to America)

no where in there do i advice or suggest killing another human!

ya so, if Muslims are so kind and understanding, then how come its death threats and intimidation for anyone who draws Mohammad. Perhaps i should do a drawing and put it up in this thread and see how many death threats i get..

BUT on the other side of the coin, when they make fun of Christians and Jews etc, you dont see mass state sponsored protests with death and slogans by the opposing group. or saying we will kill your clerics. etc etc... totally overkill and out of line.

ITS retarded, and you expect a civil view to be ascertained with such wonderful people? Who get pissed off and want to kill over a cartoon.. ya.. sure.

Why didnt we allow Nazism into the system, why is sharia law okay, when any introduction or incorporation of a foregin perception into any other country that takes over, is frankly wrong and removes the identity of the country. Look at England, won WW2 against overwhelming odd, but lost the immigration battle, its NOT England anymore. Countries need to become isolationist somewhat and have quotas. There is nothing that says we have to accept everyone on the planet, when others dont.

I cant think or any religion which would turn people away who needed food or assistance, (exception is WAR) i cant say the same with the middle east. Always has been a unstable area and people, and always will be.

Just saying..

If you had provided examples, I must have missed them. I do not recall you providing examples of Muslims using their religion to get their way.

As a response, however, have you no clue about how Christians have used their religion to get their way?

• Banning same-sex marriage.
  
• Many counties in the US are dry (no selling of alcohol) or no selling on Sundays.
  
• Laws against gambling.
  
• Do you recall the Moral Majority?

No. All you did was provide a small list of professions, with no explanation.

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Originally Posted by vlandsponger taxi drivers, kfc, disneyland, target, shall I also include Muslim Students and why "we" need to be cautious towards them as well?

Um...a little bit of hyperbole? One person got angry about hearing the word "pig". Does that mean ALL Muslims are set off when they hear the word "pig"? How many Muslims hear the word "pig" on a fairly regular basis?

Are you a Christian? Christians are child molesters, and seeing young boys get them off.

That is an incorrect way of deductive reasoning. Simply because they have gotten their way on some issues, does not mean they will get their way on everything. There is such a thing as a compromise, and Muslims, I'm sure, have to deal with having to compromise on some issues. It's like saying that as more and more Democrats realize that they can cry foul to get their way, they will. Like making a single-payer healthcare system.

You can bring up Europe all you want. Europe is simply adjusting their culture to be more inclusive of Muslims, just like our country will have to go through. Just like we went through when we had a mass influx of Italians, and Irish, and Orientals. Our culture simply became more diverse. 'Twas not so long ago that there was no such thing as a Sushi Bar.

I said that I was not.

Abolishing does not equate to killing. You are putting words into my mouth. From everything that I gathered from you multitude of postings, you'd be willing, and in favor of keeping Muslims out of the US, or sending those who are already here, back to the Middle East, thus the "abolishment".

Correct me if I'm wrong.


I too, would prefer to keep the Church and State separate. But how true does that hold for you if the Church advocates or lobbies for something you are in favor of, like banning same-sex marriage?

I agree, Sharia Law should be kept out of our laws. The reason? Sharia Law does not separate Church from State.

I would also agree about not allowing religious groups to infringe upon other's rights/beliefs. But again, this begs the question of whether you are for the same treatment with Christians, because their influence on this country is vast, overreaching, and penetrates every facet of our lives.

I would venture to guess that most Muslims living in our country, who have lived here for any significant amount of time, have accepted our Free Speech dogma. In turn, they utilize Free Speech as well. There is also a fine line about how far one should go in exercising their right to Free Speech when they use it as a means to spread hate, vile, and spread a poisoning ideology. There is such a thing as tact in accordance with being civil.

.. you make it seem acceptable that Europe is being overun, its NOT. What you FAIL to realize is 100 yrs down the road, there wont be certain countries around anymore, which is okay by you..... which adjustment is assimilation. As the BORG say, resistance is futile. Replacing one religion for another is not acceptable, as it undermines the country. History has proven this, and why should it be the Muslims why didnt we accept Nazism or Marxist perceptions, a combo of dem and socialist (ex china) then?..

Want an example, of your acceptable immigration, have you ever been to England? or FRANCE for that matter. I doubt it by your acceptance in the everything Muslim perception.

Overall its another war just a silent one. Clerics have even mentioned this along with other agencies.

What if i said USSR values and perceptions are being imported faster than the country could handle, during the cold war. would you say the same thing? That its okay to have Russians invade the US with their mentality back then.