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post #301 of 673
I thibk we see lower lows

Chinas growth is going to ignite the BS-o-meter

China is nxt on target as the euro falls
post #302 of 673
But pop on mon or tuesday
post #303 of 673

we are attracted dto 24 like a magnet

 

dont let the pops fool you

post #304 of 673
Quote:
Originally Posted by ze20001984 View Post

we are attracted dto 24 like a magnet

 

dont let the pops fool you


I think there is a big magnet at DOW 7000 that may attract everything above it to it.. Question though is when this magnet gets switched on.hmm.gif

post #305 of 673

id write my uncovered puts here...for a buy at 24 or 23

post #306 of 673

looks like we're almost there $23, $24. Do you think this drop is just on the Europe news alone, or do you think it's priced in on missing earnings on Thursday?? If current price does not price in earnings, do you think we'll see a further drop to the high teens?

post #307 of 673

watch china

 

mcp is key for it

post #308 of 673

Neo Material profit falls on higher costs

 

May 8 (Reuters) - Neo Material Technologies said on Tuesday its first-quarter profit fell 66 percent on higher operating costs and one-time charges related to a takeover by Molycorp Inc.

The Toronto-based rare earth processor and producer said its profit in the quarter ended March 31, 2012 was $12 million, or 10 cents a share. That compared with a year-earlier profit of $32 million, or 26 cents a share, in the year-earlier period.

Excluding one-time items, quarterly earnings were $21 million, or 18 cents a share.

Revenue rose to $179 million compared with $133 million in the first quarter of 2011.

Neo agreed in March to a $1.3 billion takeover by rare earth miner Molycorp. The deal is expected to close in the second or third quarter of 2012.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/08/neomaterial-idUSL1E8G8FF820120508?feedType=RSS&feedName=marketsNews&rpc=43

 

Another red day for MCP?

post #309 of 673
This has to be close to bottom now along with OXY.
post #310 of 673

i think we break uder the support

a. cool down

b. was a market whipping boy for so long

post #311 of 673

Does anyone know why MCP took a quick dive today? -8%, I guess we're not far from the teens

post #312 of 673

i dont think we go lower than 20

 

we will probably flirt at the max low..17$

 

that will be good to buy

post #313 of 673

Thanks for the reply ze20001984, would this be a good time to buy this dip (doubledown) and hope for a quick bounce?, I thought about selling covered calls to collect premium but it didn't look fesible

post #314 of 673

Article from Wall Street Journal

 

BEIJING—China is allowing more companies to export rare earth after they met new environmental standards, but a steepening decline in China's exports of the strategic minerals suggests that its policy restrictions haven't kept pace with how swiftly market demand has soured.

China controls about 95% of the global supply of rare-earth minerals, which are used in everything from consumer electronics to batteries to defense systems. In recent years the government has reduced its export quotas to secure greater control over prices, but demand eased significantly last year amid a sputtering economic recovery.

As demand continues to slow, Beijing's move is a reminder of the quota's ineffectiveness as the tide turns against Chinese rare-earth exports.

Only about half of last year's 30,184-ton quota was used, according to the ministry. Major rare-earth exports in March this year fell more than 70% compared with a year earlier, according to Beijing-based rare-earth consulting firm Baichuan Information, citing customs data.

In the first three months this year, China exported about 2,773 tons of rare-earth metals, just 26% of the initial quota for rare-earth exports, Baichuan data showed.

"The global market has adopted a cautious, wait-and-see attitude in rare-earth procurement, resulting in weakness upstream and downstream," Baichuan analyst Du Shuaibing said.

The value of China's exports of rare-earth ores, metals and compounds in the first three months this year has fallen 16.5% from a year ago, customs data showed.

Prices have also fallen. Australia-based miner Lynas Corp. LYC.AU +0.54%said the price of lanthanum oxide as of Monday was $26 per kilogram, compared with $66.46 in the fourth quarter of last year and $104.10 for all of 2011.

On Tuesday, China's Ministry of Commerce said it would allow 11 Chinese companies to export an additional 10,680 metric tons this year, on top of the 10,546 tons it initially issued in export quotas for the year.

The ministry said when it announced the quotas late last year that it would keep available 14,358 tons that could be allocated as part of the first batch, pending a handful of companies that at the time had failed to make the ministry's environmental cut.

China is set to release additional annual quotas during the summer. The ministry said in December that this year's overall quotas would likely match last year's total allocation of 30,184 metric tons.

China's export restrictions on rare earths have been the focus of international policy and market pressures in recent months. The U.S., the European Union and Japan in March filed a complaint at the World Trade Organization over China's quotas. Beijing has emphasized the environmental goals of its policy.

 

So  what I can gather is, Demand > Supply, REE prices will continue to decline and affect the EPS of MCP throughout 2012 unless we see a spike in Demand?

post #315 of 673

i cannot predict the future..lol..if i did id be a trillionare in 10 seconds

 

that being said

 

EWH is -BIG%

 

if euro problems continue

 

china will get hit harder...

 

if you can spread out your averaging down (i dont know how much money you have)..you can possibly reduce the 30 buys...

 

you can also do options...and buy more as another form of averaging down

 

markets are super pessemisstic now

 

meaning we get to 20

 

and a super low ot 17-18$

post #316 of 673

you can always buy ANOTHER stock...

 

and keep mcp forever

post #317 of 673

So what: That's right, Nu Skin and multi-level marketing rival Herbalife (NYS: HLF) rallied yesterday on news that David Einhorn, in listing off his short-selling targets, mentioned Martin Marietta (NYS: MLM) , Dick's Sporting Goods (NYS: DKS) , and anything related to China but did not mention Nu Skin and Herbalife in his discussion. Herbalife was also upgraded by brokerage Caris

post #318 of 673

touching close to 20

 

if we can use ANR as an example

 

i thought wed NEVER see anything below 14$

 

and now its at 11$

 

....

 

i think ill never see below mcp 17

 

means mcp gets to 15??

post #319 of 673

popping today

post #320 of 673

grabbed some June 20 calls today

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