Best Stocks to Buy/Hold Until 2012-2013?

NO WAY AAPL.

Thats a great list

Apple was the first stock that came to my mind. 1000 PPS one day. I dont think Apple will live forever, or will it??

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With all the pending lawsuits with respect to antenna issue, we'll just have to wait and see how that's gonna effect apple years to come.

People are really filling a lawsuit over that

IMO I think apple will stay in this range or drift slightly lower for the next year or two until we get a new product on the market. I havent heard any talks of what is next to come so investors might be cautious until we hear something

It's hard to tell at this point. Unless one of those lawsuits triggers recall, I don't see any reason that would make it slip out of this range.

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another two i like but not as much as the first 4 are
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all of these stocks have 2012 leap options.

i think people are getting way too upbeat on aapl. i think it has reached it maturity. it is now in the situation of a msft. it may keep coming out with new iphones but the new phone just replaces the old phone sales. i really dont think they will be able to add another product that will get them past the 300b market cap barrier. iphone/ipad at most can get them to that 300b mcap. i really think they done put their top in.

also i notice most people are like me. back in the 90's i got a new cell once or twice per year. now days as the phones get better i keep them longer. i kept my last phone for two years. i really expect that i will keep my new evo for even longer. thats how a good amount of ipone 4 buyers will feel. these phones are so loaded now that its going to be hard for the next one to be much better.

1) Jobs won't be around forever. Heck, he wouldn't even be around right now if not for that black market kidney he got last year. The day he keels over, that stock is going to absolutely plummet, because it's his hype and marketing that keeps this company afloat, not the quality of their products.

2) Yes, their computers have an 8% market share, which is about all they'll ever have. Because they *aren't* the best, they're form over functionality. They've had less than a 10% market share for DECADES. This isn't a new company. What's saying they won't have 30% by 2013? The fact that they've never been able to.

3) Netflix already has deals to stream things to your TV. It's called an XBox 360, a Playstation 3, a Wii, a Slingbox, Roku, or a media convergence center.

4) TiVo is already basically bankrupt, because cable companies already provide DVR's.

5) For all the hype about their iPhones, people seem to overlook (because the media tells them to) that for every 3 iPhones sold, 5 Androids are sold. They tend to overlook that Apple only has like a 20% market share in the smartphone world. The Android OS will ultimately become the dominant mobile platform out there - it's an undeniable fact.

6) Then, of course, we have the iPad - the fad of the decade so far, it seems For all the hype about how many sold so quickly (apparently people had never heard of a Tablet PC before, somehow), how often do you really see someone walking around with one? One of my homes is in San Francisco, which is sort of Apple's big stronghold, and not even I see that many people with one out here anymore. I imagine the typical user experience is a lot like the pilot program that was done at my company not too far back - people used them for about 3 weeks and then once the novelty of them wore off and they realized they weren't all that functional, they got tossed in a drawer.

So with all this, how exactly is AAPL going to move much from here? I see these analysts adjusting their price targets to 390 a share, and I have to shake my head.

What parts about Citrix do you like that leads you to assume that they are going to take off in 2012. Not second guessing your opinion, but really like their products.

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2012? Astroid Stocks

This is the only one I'm going to target in rebuttal, simply because I don't want this to get into a long debate and most of the other counterpoints offered were "there's plenty of room for everyone" - which I agree with, but if there's room for everyone to share, that means nobody is going to become the largest company on the planet.

Anyhow, as to point 2: I can build a PC that is literally twice as fast as anything Apple has to offer for about 40% of the price. That's a fact. Not only that, it will be more stable than an Apple product. It won't contract viruses, because I know how to use them. And it will give me the level of granular control over the machine that I require. The thing that makes Apple products so stable is that they lock the owner of the machine out of most of the core sectors of the machine. They filter and restrict what you can do with it, and by restricting you so heavily, it prevents the possibility of badly screwing something up.

The analogy I've always used for Mac vs. PC in this regard is with cars: Sure, it's safer to drive 55 mph, but you don't see too many people out there rushing to buy cars that have governors on them that restrict the speed to 55. They want the option to punch the accelerator if they want. The Mac is the car that can only do 55 because that's what it tells you that you can do. The PC is the car with the 5 speed manual transmission and the features to give the person driving it control.