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Best stocks for 2012?

 

Which stocks are you buying into long term in the coming months?

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My favorites are

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NO WAY AAPL.
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NO WAY AAPL.
I'm done doubting Steve Jobs. Apple will take over the world.

If not Apple...what DO you like?
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My favorites are

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Thats a great list
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NO WAY AAPL.
Apple was the first stock that came to my mind. 1000 PPS one day. I dont think Apple will live forever, or will it??
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Apple was the first stock that came to my mind. 1000 PPS one day. I dont think Apple will live forever, or will it??
With all the pending lawsuits with respect to antenna issue, we'll just have to wait and see how that's gonna effect apple years to come.
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With all the pending lawsuits with respect to antenna issue, we'll just have to wait and see how that's gonna effect apple years to come.
People are really filling a lawsuit over that

IMO I think apple will stay in this range or drift slightly lower for the next year or two until we get a new product on the market. I havent heard any talks of what is next to come so investors might be cautious until we hear something
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People are really filling a lawsuit over that

IMO I think apple will stay in this range or drift slightly lower for the next year or two until we get a new product on the market. I havent heard any talks of what is next to come so investors might be cautious until we hear something
It's hard to tell at this point. Unless one of those lawsuits triggers recall, I don't see any reason that would make it slip out of this range.
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another two i like but not as much as the first 4 are
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all of these stocks have 2012 leap options.
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i think people are getting way too upbeat on aapl. i think it has reached it maturity. it is now in the situation of a msft. it may keep coming out with new iphones but the new phone just replaces the old phone sales. i really dont think they will be able to add another product that will get them past the 300b market cap barrier. iphone/ipad at most can get them to that 300b mcap. i really think they done put their top in.

also i notice most people are like me. back in the 90's i got a new cell once or twice per year. now days as the phones get better i keep them longer. i kept my last phone for two years. i really expect that i will keep my new evo for even longer. thats how a good amount of ipone 4 buyers will feel. these phones are so loaded now that its going to be hard for the next one to be much better.
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i think people are getting way too upbeat on aapl. i think it has reached it maturity. it is now in the situation of a msft. it may keep coming out with new iphones but the new phone just replaces the old phone sales. i really dont think they will be able to add another product that will get them past the 300b market cap barrier. iphone/ipad at most can get them to that 300b mcap. i really think they done put their top in.

also i notice most people are like me. back in the 90's i got a new cell once or twice per year. now days as the phones get better i keep them longer. i kept my last phone for two years. i really expect that i will keep my new evo for even longer. thats how a good amount of ipone 4 buyers will feel. these phones are so loaded now that its going to be hard for the next one to be much better.
Do you watch golf?

If so, you are familiar with Tiger Woods.

For years, Tiger has come from 7 shots down with one round to play, 4 shots down with 5 holes to play, 10 shots down with 2 rounds to play, etc.

People would say, "no way in hell he can win this tournament."

Except, he does, frequently. And therefore, people, myself included, are done doubting Tiger Woods simply because he is the best.



Steve Jobs is the best, he is the Tiger Woods of tech (minus the sex scandal). I'm not sure how many times I've heard from "experts" claiming Apple is "saturated, overpriced, and slowing."

Apple has less than around an 8% market share in personal computers, yet they are a larger company than any other tech giant. Given that they undisputedly make better computers than ANYONE, why can't that number rise to 20% by 2013? 50% by 2016? 80% by 2020?

Why can't Apple reinvent the television? I feel that's their next product. They get a deal with Netflix to stream every movie ever made onto your TV, automatically synced with your iTunes music and connected to your home theater system (also built by Apple), a built in DVR that puts Tivo to absolute shame and sends them BK...why not?

That's a rhetorical question. If Steve wants something done, he does it.
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Do you watch golf?

Steve Jobs is the best, he is the Tiger Woods of tech (minus the sex scandal). I'm not sure how many times I've heard from "experts" claiming Apple is "saturated, overpriced, and slowing."

Apple has less than around an 8% market share in personal computers. Given that they undisputedly make better computers than ANYONE, why can't that number rise to 20% by 2013? 50% by 2016? 80% by 2020?

Why can't Apple reinvent the television? I feel that's their next product. They get a deal with Netflix to stream every movie ever made onto your TV, automatically synced with your iTunes music and connected to your home theater system (also built by Apple), a built in DVR that puts Tivo to absolute shame and sends them BK...why not?

That's a rhetorical question. If Steve wants something done, he does it.
1) Jobs won't be around forever. Heck, he wouldn't even be around right now if not for that black market kidney he got last year. The day he keels over, that stock is going to absolutely plummet, because it's his hype and marketing that keeps this company afloat, not the quality of their products.

2) Yes, their computers have an 8% market share, which is about all they'll ever have. Because they *aren't* the best, they're form over functionality. They've had less than a 10% market share for DECADES. This isn't a new company. What's saying they won't have 30% by 2013? The fact that they've never been able to.

3) Netflix already has deals to stream things to your TV. It's called an XBox 360, a Playstation 3, a Wii, a Slingbox, Roku, or a media convergence center.

4) TiVo is already basically bankrupt, because cable companies already provide DVR's.

5) For all the hype about their iPhones, people seem to overlook (because the media tells them to) that for every 3 iPhones sold, 5 Androids are sold. They tend to overlook that Apple only has like a 20% market share in the smartphone world. The Android OS will ultimately become the dominant mobile platform out there - it's an undeniable fact.

6) Then, of course, we have the iPad - the fad of the decade so far, it seems For all the hype about how many sold so quickly (apparently people had never heard of a Tablet PC before, somehow), how often do you really see someone walking around with one? One of my homes is in San Francisco, which is sort of Apple's big stronghold, and not even I see that many people with one out here anymore. I imagine the typical user experience is a lot like the pilot program that was done at my company not too far back - people used them for about 3 weeks and then once the novelty of them wore off and they realized they weren't all that functional, they got tossed in a drawer.

So with all this, how exactly is AAPL going to move much from here? I see these analysts adjusting their price targets to 390 a share, and I have to shake my head.
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1) Jobs won't be around forever. Heck, he wouldn't even be around right now if not for that black market kidney he got last year. The day he keels over, that stock is going to absolutely plummet, because it's his hype and marketing that keeps this company afloat, not the quality of their products.

2) Yes, their computers have an 8% market share, which is about all they'll ever have. Because they *aren't* the best, they're form over functionality. They've had less than a 10% market share for DECADES. This isn't a new company. What's saying they won't have 30% by 2013? The fact that they've never been able to.

3) Netflix already has deals to stream things to your TV. It's called an XBox 360, a Playstation 3, a Wii, a Slingbox, Roku, or a media convergence center.

4) TiVo is already basically bankrupt, because cable companies already provide DVR's.

5) For all the hype about their iPhones, people seem to overlook (because the media tells them to) that for every 3 iPhones sold, 5 Androids are sold. They tend to overlook that Apple only has like a 20% market share in the smartphone world. The Android OS will ultimately become the dominant mobile platform out there - it's an undeniable fact.

6) Then, of course, we have the iPad - the fad of the decade so far, it seems For all the hype about how many sold so quickly (apparently people had never heard of a Tablet PC before, somehow), how often do you really see someone walking around with one? One of my homes is in San Francisco, which is sort of Apple's big stronghold, and not even I see that many people with one out here anymore. I imagine the typical user experience is a lot like the pilot program that was done at my company not too far back - people used them for about 3 weeks and then once the novelty of them wore off and they realized they weren't all that functional, they got tossed in a drawer.

So with all this, how exactly is AAPL going to move much from here? I see these analysts adjusting their price targets to 390 a share, and I have to shake my head.
This was a good post, but I am going to respectfully disagree with most of your points.

1) This is actually my biggest concern over Apple, Steve's health. Yes, the stock is probably going to take a 10%-15% beating the first day he retires, but I think this only bruises the company, and we all know bruises heal. Apple has countless, countless smart people in their company who share Steve's vision of Apple's future. They've got products planned years in advanced, and when Steve leaves, I can't picture a bunch of monkeys scratching their heads saying "Now what the **** do we do?"

2) I'm not going to get into the Mac vs. PC debate. Personally (I have 2 PCs and a Macbook), I prefer computers that are faster, easier to use, last longer, and don't get error messages or viruses. But I guess it's a matter of preference.

3) Netflix is just one of the TV's features. Yes, Xbox, PS3, etc have it too, but not everyone is a gamer, so having it built in is nice. It could have access to the APP store, where full scale video games could be developed and purchased. Just use your imagination, it could have endless features.

4) Whether Tivo is bankrupt or not, alot of people have Tivo.

5) Even if Android had 40% of the market (which they don't), that's still plenty of room for the iPhone to grow, especially overseas.

6) Personally, I don't get the iPad, but apparently people love it. I just got my mom one for her birthday last week, it's the only piece of technology she can actually develop. And I'm not sure if you've played with one, but it's really fun, and still a young product.
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all of these stocks have 2012 leap options.
What parts about Citrix do you like that leads you to assume that they are going to take off in 2012. Not second guessing your opinion, but really like their products.
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2012? Astroid Stocks
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This was a good post, but I am going to respectfully disagree with most of your points.


2) I'm not going to get into the Mac vs. PC debate. Personally (I have 2 PCs and a Macbook), I prefer computers that are faster, easier to use, last longer, and don't get error messages or viruses. But I guess it's a matter of preference.

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This is the only one I'm going to target in rebuttal, simply because I don't want this to get into a long debate and most of the other counterpoints offered were "there's plenty of room for everyone" - which I agree with, but if there's room for everyone to share, that means nobody is going to become the largest company on the planet.

Anyhow, as to point 2: I can build a PC that is literally twice as fast as anything Apple has to offer for about 40% of the price. That's a fact. Not only that, it will be more stable than an Apple product. It won't contract viruses, because I know how to use them. And it will give me the level of granular control over the machine that I require. The thing that makes Apple products so stable is that they lock the owner of the machine out of most of the core sectors of the machine. They filter and restrict what you can do with it, and by restricting you so heavily, it prevents the possibility of badly screwing something up.

The analogy I've always used for Mac vs. PC in this regard is with cars: Sure, it's safer to drive 55 mph, but you don't see too many people out there rushing to buy cars that have governors on them that restrict the speed to 55. They want the option to punch the accelerator if they want. The Mac is the car that can only do 55 because that's what it tells you that you can do. The PC is the car with the 5 speed manual transmission and the features to give the person driving it control.
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