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post #21 of 205
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The web based platform with market trader for streaming quote, l2 and charting.

I looked at the Pro platform, but decided since it is more geared towards US stocks the web based platform would be sufficient.
Are the charts interactive and does it have 1 click ordering
post #22 of 205
Does anyone know if or when TD Waterhouse is going to accept new Canadian accounts for Think or Swim and if they will have pennies available.
post #23 of 205
I need to move my accounts from QUESTrade to Itrade. Problem is for 2 weeks you cannot touch the shares you own
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I need to move my accounts from QUESTrade to Itrade. Problem is for 2 weeks you cannot touch the shares you own
Yea, for active traders that is biggest issue when it comes to tfsa accounts when moving.
post #25 of 205
Wich one is the best ? TFSA or RRSP?????
post #26 of 205
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Wich one is the best ? TFSA or RRSP?????
If you are planning to invest or trading without taking any funds out until you retired then RRSP would be better for you, since when you decide to take funds out you will be tax at a lower bracket.
post #27 of 205
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Saving just got a whole lot easier

The new Tax-Free Savings Account (TFSA) is a flexible, registered general-purpose savings vehicle that allows Canadians to earn tax-free investment income to more easily meet lifetime savings needs. The TFSA complements existing registered savings plans like the Registered Retirement Savings Plans (RRSP) and the Registered Education Savings Plans (RESP).
How the Tax-Free Savings Account Works

Canadian residents age 18 or older can contribute up to $5,000 annually to a TFSA.
Investment income earned in a TFSA is tax-free.
Withdrawals from a TFSA are tax-free.
Unused TFSA contribution room is carried forward and accumulates in future years.
Full amount of withdrawals can be put back into the TFSA in future years.
Choose from a wide range of investment options such as mutual funds, Guaranteed Investment Certificates (GICs) and bonds.
Contributions are not tax-deductible.
Neither income earned within a TFSA nor withdrawals from it affect eligibility for federal income-tested benefits and credits, such as Old Age Security, the Guaranteed Income Supplement, and the Canada Child Tax Benefit.
Funds can be given to a spouse or common-law partner for them to invest in their TFSA.
TFSA assets can generally be transferred to a spouse or common-law partner upon death.
post #28 of 205
I just got such a bill

When my bank closed my first placed 5k in my TFSA , it closed the whole account instead of doing an autorised transfert...

Result, 15K value to my TFSA , so 150$ bill...

I am not paying this crap, my bank will either pay it or you can contest the bill and have the bank correct the documents it sent to the ARC. Sent a nice love letter to my bank representative yesterday, we'll see....
post #29 of 205
I have a TFSA at questrade and think I will leave it there and never touch it. Except adding to it when possible. It's too bad a few people who abused the system hurt others who had not intended to rip the system off at all.
post #30 of 205
You can do autorized transferts and it wont count as an extra to your TFSA

Fact is most brokers/banks do not know how to do it, so they simply close the account and then proceed to wire the cash...

On my TFSA receipt they'Re using to bill me, it says withraw the 10-30-2009 and then broker TFSA contribution on the 10-30-2009...

I mean, come on, used some logic there flaherty, its not like i had time to spend and earn 5000$ during 12 hours nighttime... geez
post #31 of 205
thanks for the infos ...really usefull...i'm leaning torward a TFSA account....
post #32 of 205
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A federal effort to encourage Canadians to save more in a special account has led to frustration and anger among those who didn’t understand the complex rules.
Thousands of people received letters from the Canada Revenue Agency this month, saying they owed extra tax of 1 per cent a month on over-contributions made to a TFSA (tax-free savings account). They have until June 30 to pay the tax or risk penalties.
I’ve heard from dozens of readers since my Saturday column about the TFSA confusion. Most are facing tax bills that far exceed their tax-free income.
The $5,000 annual limit for contributions was widely known. However, some people failed to realize that a TFSA was not a regular savings account, allowing easy transfers in and out. They had to wait until the next year to replace money that had been withdrawn.
The rules on excess contributions were explained at the government’s website, www.tfsa.gc.ca. But not everyone checked the rules before opening an account.
“Withdrawals from a TFSA in a given year are not added back to an individual’s contribution room until the following year,” says a federal finance official.
“Without such a rule, it would be very difficult to verify whether a given contribution is within the individual’s TFSA limit.”
Many people told me they had relied on their financial institutions to give the whole story about TFSAs, but received only partial information.
One reader opened an account at her bank’s encouragement last year. She moved in $21,000 from her chequing account, thinking she could escape tax on the interest earned on the first $5,000.
She ended up with a massive tax bill of $1,240 for her excess contributions in 2009. Now she’s asking why the bank didn’t warn her that she was over the limit.
Another reader, also pitched to open a TFSA, used it to save for wedding expenses. She received a $200 tax bill and after calling her bank, was told the withdrawal rules were not clearly known until a few months ago.
ING Direct was one of the first banks to attract TFSA contributions with an ad campaign that started before the Jan. 1, 2009, launch date.
“The government was quite slow out of the gate on getting financial institutions the forms and information required to service TFSAs,” says ING spokeswoman Lisa Naccarato.
“This could explain some of the lack of information when TFSAs first became available.”
Some readers received tax bills after transferring TFSAs from one financial institution to another. You can do transfers without penalty, but only if you ask a financial institution to move investments directly from one account to another.
If you close an account with $5,000 at one bank and deposit $5,000 at a different bank in the same year, you’ll be taxed for making an excess contribution.
“The main message that Canadians need to know is that TFSAs are registered products and there are rules associated with transferring funds,” Naccarato says. “They need to view them as similar to RRSPs, where a specific process is followed for transfers.”
In my last column, I mentioned two examples of readers making transfers within a bank that were ruled offside. One moved a TFSA from a TD Waterhouse discount brokerage account to a TD Canada Trust bank account and another did the opposite.
“TFSA issues appear to be varied and we have a dedicated team working to figure out what’s happened in each case and how to fix it,” says Barbara Timmins, a TD Bank Financial Group spokeswoman.
“In cases where an internal transfer between TD Canada Trust and TD Waterhouse resulted in the contribution being mistakenly counted twice, we have committed to communicating the correct information to the CRA by June 30.”
It shouldn’t take almost 18 months from the TFSA launch date for clients and banks to learn the rules. Moreover, some people will have to pay more tax next year for errors made in 2010.
The federal government looks bad for rushing to launch a new tax shelter without communicating the risks of over-contributions and improper transfers. This could hurt its electoral chances if the fiasco isn’t fixed quickly.
post #33 of 205
if you put 5 k's every year in a TFSA and no transfert ...you seems fine Is that so?
post #34 of 205
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if you put 5 k's every year in a TFSA and no transfert ...you seems fine Is that so?
Yes, it should be fine, My problem is since I'm trading with it It will be hard for me to keep it under control or around the 5K limit. I need to do more looking into it so I can figure out if it is worth it or not. if not then I will go back to my cash account.
post #35 of 205
TFSA is worth it.

Just build your savings, once you have a steady income from it you can easily withraw money and keep playing with the rest until next year..

My banker still does not understand the problem im facing with my tax, he's almost saying it's my fault.... so i have to contest the bill and explain myself to the gov...

"sigh"
post #36 of 205
For me trading out of a TFSA works great because I never withdraw any money from it, and every January I will pop another $5K into it. It will take some time to build it up but it is worth it in my opinion. For a full time trader I would suggest using a cash account and a TFSA as a secondary account.

Anyone trade as a sole proprietor? I have been thinking of starting a business to trade so I can claim expenses, fees, etc, trade margin and short stocks. Another thing to keep in mind with TFSAs, no margin, no shorting.
post #37 of 205
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For me trading out of a TFSA works great because I never withdraw any money from it, and every January I will pop another $5K into it. It will take some time to build it up but it is worth it in my opinion. For a full time trader I would suggest using a cash account and a TFSA as a secondary account.

Anyone trade as a sole proprietor? I have been thinking of starting a business to trade so I can claim expenses, fees, etc, trade margin and short stocks. Another thing to keep in mind with TFSAs, no margin, no shorting.
I opened a corproate account to trade in for that very reason, even though you are a corp you are still taxed at around 40% on the trading proceeds, but if you pay yourself a divi from the corp that gets the tax rate down to around 20% (according to my accountant).

My TFSA has done so well though since starting with $5K 18 months ago, that I am pretty much doing most of my trading in it and have turned it into a bit of cash machine taking $30K out so far this year. I am not sure what I wll do with the corp now ... I put most of the cash in that account into divi paying stocks like day, stb, pmt.un, etc.

TFSA can be used for options trading and for covered call writing, but you cannot do naked calls as that requires margin.
post #38 of 205
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I opened a corproate account to trade in for that very reason, even though you are a corp you are still taxed at around 40% on the trading proceeds, but if you pay yourself a divi from the corp that gets the tax rate down to around 20% (according to my accountant).

My TFSA has done so well though since starting with $5K 18 months ago, that I am pretty much doing most of my trading in it and have turned it into a bit of cash machine taking $30K out so far this year. I am not sure what I wll do with the corp now ... I put most of the cash in that account into divi paying stocks like day, stb, pmt.un, etc.

TFSA can be used for options trading and for covered call writing, but you cannot do naked calls as that requires margin.
Hey thanks for the info, good to know!

Great job with the TFSA, I'll be sure to follow your picks here lol! Banking that kind of coin you probably live in Fairfield eh?
post #39 of 205
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Hey thanks for the info, good to know!

Great job with the TFSA, I'll be sure to follow your picks here lol! Banking that kind of coin you probably live in Fairfield eh?
Watch out when you decide to start a proprietorship to trade. Once you start writing off expenses such as data fees, office expenses, computers etc. and you are day trading, CRA will treat the gains as straight income, not capital gains if they know you are making a living from trading.
post #40 of 205
You can buy naked puts and naked calls but you cannot write naked in the TFSA
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