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Originally Posted by KingJaffeJoe View Post
In other words, if a person didn't want to fight for the right for someone to be an atheist, the right to freedom of religion would've excluded atheism. Since it didn't, you are fighting for atheism, among other religions.

Oh sure. I don't doubt that.

However, I was simply saying that those in totalitarian states were not killing the religious due to a wish to advance atheism. They were killing the religious so that it wouldn't rival their own power structure. This is something that has occurred throughout History, even with the Kings of Europe.
post #82 of 122
Why thank you. I do you try my best.

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I have yet to find any other member that can be an A-hole like you your special!!


j/k
post #83 of 122
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Originally Posted by rgman27 View Post
Why did he do this?

Maybe, he doesn't care if the majority of American People wish to discriminate against a person on the basis of their religion, since he believes in the best person who is qualified for the Job gets the job.
Unfortunately, some don't believe that and instead wish to revert to a backward and stupid way of thinking.
Don't hang your hat on that one. This is the same man that assigned Larry Summers and Paul Volcker to front up his economic plan. Their history and long known stupidity should have put them in charge of a demolition crew of third graders. Not the largest economy in the world.

While I have no idea whether his two "devout Muslims" are good men or not, I find my self suspicious of all his appointments since his unfathomable choices of Volcker and Summers.


Good Luck
post #84 of 122
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Originally Posted by rgman27 View Post
Why did he do this?

Maybe, he doesn't care if the majority of American People wish to discriminate against a person on the basis of their religion, since he believes in the best person who is qualified for the Job gets the job.

Unfortunately, some don't believe that and instead wish to revert to a backward and stupid way of thinking.
Janet Napolitano sure is doing a great job as Secretary of DHS....

"the system worked" -in response to the failed christmas day attack

“all’s quiet on the Southern front” -in response to the AZ immigration law

“I know that border I think as well as anyone, and I will tell you it is as secure now as it has ever been,” -in response to the AZ immigration law


He sure does pick the brightest people!
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Don't hang your hat on that one. This is the same man that assigned Larry Summers and Paul Volcker to front up his economic plan. Their history and long known stupidity should have put them in charge of a demolition crew of third graders. Not the largest economy in the world.

While I have no idea whether his two "devout Muslims" are good men or not, I find my self suspicious of all his appointments since his unfathomable choices of Volcker and Summers.


Good Luck
I wasn't intending to say that is actually the case. I am just throwing a possibility as to why he may have appointed two Muslims. He may have done it to conjure sympathy with the Muslim community.

That wasn't really my point. I am just against people attacking the appointment of a person to a position on anything other than their achievement or what they may have done. If people had done that then I wouldn't have a problem.
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Originally Posted by vlandsponger View Post
anyone? USMC? Enickma? side stepping the FACTS are easy....what religion produces the most terrorists and what are the percentages in comparison to other religions....find that and tell me I'm wrong and then I'll take back my "we should profile Muslims" comment...
The thing is liberals want a divided America. They push racism.

This country was founded as a Christian nation. Now liberals want to let everyone and anyone come over here and NOT leave there sacred "cultures" behind. We are forced to accept every religion under the sun. Can not get caught talking bad about any religion except the one we wee founded on.?! Now we are all divided and everyone is busy trying to fight for their own people. We have mexican areas, black areas, white areas, oriental areas Etc.
And yes to an extent it has always been divided but now is different because they are each taught to hold on to the cultures they come from. Go try and take a semester of college taking classes to be a teacher and your eyes will open I promise.

The only way out of this mess is to give States full rights. Let each state determine what they want to do. People can then choose where they want to live. And if moving may be too tough for you, then maybe a civil war would be less tough LOL
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Originally Posted by rgman27 View Post
Why did he do this?

Maybe, he doesn't care if the majority of American People wish to discriminate against a person on the basis of their religion, since he believes in the best person who is qualified for the Job gets the job.

Unfortunately, some don't believe that and instead wish to revert to a backward and stupid way of thinking.

Because we all know in America "the best qualified" person always gets the job and race is never ever a factor.
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Originally Posted by TNTrader View Post
This is the same man that assigned Larry Summers and Paul Volcker to front up his economic plan. Their history and long known stupidity should have put them in charge of a demolition crew of third graders. Not the largest economy in the world.
Don't forget about the NAMBLA supporter Kevin Jennings as safe school czar no less. Wtf that pick was all about I'll never understand.
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Don't forget about the NAMBLA supporter Kevin Jennings as safe school czar no less. Wtf that pick was all about I'll never understand.
God damn I get pissed every time I think about the ****ing pervert Kevin Jennings as safe schools czar.
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The thing is liberals want a divided America. They push racism.

This country was founded as a Christian nation. Now liberals want to let everyone and anyone come over here and NOT leave there sacred "cultures" behind. We are forced to accept every religion under the sun. Can not get caught talking bad about any religion except the one we wee founded on.?! Now we are all divided and everyone is busy trying to fight for their own people. We have mexican areas, black areas, white areas, oriental areas Etc.
And yes to an extent it has always been divided but now is different because they are each taught to hold on to the cultures they come from. Go try and take a semester of college taking classes to be a teacher and your eyes will open I promise.

The only way out of this mess is to give States full rights. Let each state determine what they want to do. People can then choose where they want to live. And if moving may be too tough for you, then maybe a civil war would be less tough LOL
^^^ ^^^

Your thoughts and reasoning are delusional. The civil war (1861 - 1865) already dealt with one of your ideas.
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i actually do kinda agree.. case in point with the American kid getting kicked out of school. Why should i support other cultures, when the one here is American, English, and the American flag, which everyone likes to treat like crap and burn. But i dont go around buring other flags....

States do need to regulate things over the Feds, just depends on what.
Infact, ill almost say we have a state that will succeed from the union.
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States do need to regulate things over the Feds,
Damn right they do and they need to keep this pervert Obamo appointee away from their children.

kevin jennings safe school czar and founder of http://www.glsen.org/cgi-bin/iowa/all/home/index.html (gay lesbian and straight education network)
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Perfect example of why we should profile individuals.

Let’s be realistic how many 78 year old Dutchman’s fly planes in buildings. How many 8 year old girls dressed in their girl-scout uniform plan to plant bombs in Time Square.

See ladies & gentleman these are the type of people that exist on our no fly list. The last time I checked every individual responsible for 9/11 was a Muslim extremist. Lets stop the whining and begin profiling every Muslim. Why well not because we’re racist but statistically they love to hijack airplanes.

When was the last time a middle age Caucasian male living New Haven CT attempted to hijack a plane carrying 400 people?
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Terrorism is not limited to hijacking planes, and I'm sure you know that. So this question:

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When was the last time a middle age Caucasian male living New Haven CT attempted to hijack a plane carrying 400 people?
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When was the last time a non-Muslim terrorist tried to destroy a plane carrying ~400 people?
There have been cases of all types of people (whites and blacks included) attempting to do just that. If you profile only Muslims, then what do you do about terrorists of other races (or even Muslims who are not of middle eastern descent)?
post #96 of 122
You are pathetic.

You are the reason why this country has the elderly and children on the no fly list. You too concerned with well what if.

What if's do not count. We can only go by what has happend in the past. So the question begs how many middle age white men have flown planes into skyscapers?
post #97 of 122
King -

You are going to have pull really hard to get this out of your a$$, where in gods creation do you think an 8 year old girl dressed up in her girls scout uniform or 68 year old dutchman with alzheizmers could even be considered a security threat let alone be banned from flying?
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Originally Posted by Booyah View Post
You are pathetic.

You are the reason why this country has the elderly and children on the no fly list. You too concerned with well what if.

What if's do not count. We can only go by what has happend in the past. So the question begs how many middle age white men have flown planes into skyscapers?
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King -

You are going to have pull really hard to get this out of your a$$, where in gods creation do you think an 8 year old girl dressed up in her girls scout uniform or 68 year old dutchman with alzheizmers could even be considered a security threat let alone be banned from flying?
Pathetic? Really? That's the first time I've been called that on these forums. Good insult. I hate insulting people, but you are one of the dumbest posters I've ever had to respond to.

I have never given my view on profiling kids or the elderly. What are you drawing your conclusions from?

Here's the problem with profiling Muslims: there is no viable way to do it. I do agree that they need to profiled, because honestly, the Muslim extremists have been the cause of the majority of terrorist attacks. But how should you profile a Muslim? By the way they look? What does a Muslim look like? It is impossible to distinguish all Muslims from all non-Muslims.

With that said, I'm still correct in saying that (and I'll bold it for you) terrorism is not limited to hijacking planes. Asking how many white men have flown planes into skyscrapers IS IRRELEVANT. People of many races have tried to sneak explosive devices onto air planes. I hate to fixate on race, but just to get a point across, a mixed man single-handedly changed the way we look at shoes on airplanes. How do we profile someone like him? He was half white and half black. Should we profile the black in him since middle aged white men aren't a threat? Or would you prefer to have him board a plane without being profiled because he isn't from the middle east?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard...shoe_bomber%29

Well, what happens when a Dutch (presumably white) man sneaks a 'liquid bomb' onto a plane? Should we take our chances and forget about the what-ifs?

http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/l...-1225838266884
post #99 of 122
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Originally Posted by Booyah View Post
King -

You are going to have pull really hard to get this out of your a$$, where in gods creation do you think an 8 year old girl dressed up in her girls scout uniform or 68 year old dutchman with alzheizmers could even be considered a security threat let alone be banned from flying?
What does a Muslim look like?
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In the event that you fail to remember who killed 3,000 Americans on the morning of September 11th, 2001, here is a reminder of what they look like.




For some like USMC and the King you might believe that profiling individuals that appear to be of middle eastern discent and muslim is a little to much. They would rather put people that look like this on the No Fly List....

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