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Originally Posted by rgman27 View Post
How many have happened in the US?
well I can think of 1 off the top of my head and it was pretty extraordinary.
The Army General in Texas
The recent failed Times Square car bomb

These have not been red flags of any sort? Should these incidents give any American a reason to question the motive and the source?

You bet. There are striking similarities between the people behind these attacks.
How do we see the good from the bad? IDK and that is the the hard part. Personally, I don't want to offend anyone or call somebody out that doesn't deserve it. Do we just continue to watch this happen and get used to it? t's quite the predicament.
post #22 of 122
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Originally Posted by IchibomB View Post
well I can think of 1 off the top of my head and it was pretty extraordinary.
The Army General in Texas
The recent failed Times Square car bomb

These have not been red flags of any sort? Should these incidents give any American a reason to question the motive and the source?

You bet. There are striking similarities between the people behind these attacks.
How do we see the good from the bad? IDK and that is the the hard part. Personally, I don't want to offend anyone or call somebody out that doesn't deserve it. Do we just continue to watch this happen and get used to it? t's quite the predicament.
I have no problem with profiling. I have no problem with questioning people and offending them over suspicions.

I have a problem with roundly condemning the appointment of Muslims regardless.
post #23 of 122
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Originally Posted by vlandsponger View Post
they could start by NOT taking people like the NYC Bomber Faisal Shahzad OFF a national terrorist list...

http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/...before-attack/
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Sources tell CBS News that would-be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad appeared on a Department of Homeland Security travel lookout list – Traveler Enforcement Compliance System (TECS) – between 1999 and 2008 because he brought approximately $80,000 cash or cash instruments into the United States.
That would seem to me to be more of a decision regarding how to handle the fact that he brought $80,000 into the US than a function of his religion / race.

If you feel you can manage a response to my questions I'm still interested in hearing what your brand of oppression entails. If you'd rather instead submit the kind of one liners I'd expect to hear from one of my redneck friends as they're tossing back a Natural light, that's fine too.

At the end of the day, I don't want this great country to regress to a place where someone gets told they can't board a bus because of the color of their skin. That's when THEY really win. When people are so scared and frustrated that they turn our society into a draconian environment of hatred, and reverse the last 60+ years of social progress. When they pull us back to their level of primitive ethnic conflict. That will do more damage than any car bomb ever will.
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Originally Posted by StockJock-e View Post
Serbian Muslim:



All Muslims from that region and some Turks like my buddy are also light skinned and blue eyed.

In this case I will agree with vland, I feel Muslims like this must be profiled, from many angles, and in a bikini.
Muslim sympathizer!!! I say strip search.... Where do I sign up?
post #25 of 122
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Originally Posted by StockJock-e View Post
Serbian Muslim:



All Muslims from that region and some Turks like my buddy are also light skinned and blue eyed.

In this case I will agree with vland, I feel Muslims like this must be profiled, from many angles, and in a bikini.
Would I be wrong to propose a cavity search?
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IT'S GETTING DEEP IN HERE.


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post #27 of 122
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IT'S GETTING DEEP IN HERE.


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Most be one of VEG pigs.....
post #28 of 122
I sincerely apologize for not initially grasping your wisdom. Forget profiling, let's do this:

We’ll start spreading information that all Muslims are bad and are responsible for the war. While we're at it, we'll even blame them for the currency devaluation.

Once we demonize the whole group, we'll then make them wear arm bands identifying them as such. A couple years down the road, we can then begin rounding them up and place them in comfortable camps. We’ll ship them there on packed railroad cars. We can then separate the men, woman, and children- all for their safety of course. They'll be secure as they’ll be secluded in the countryside, which of course will be guarded by sentry men and German Shepherds. Heck, we’ll even put barbwire around the compound.

The best part is that we’ll eventually start exterminating them one by one to cleanse the Earth of their filth.

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Originally Posted by vlandsponger View Post
you're right! YOUR ignorance of the FACTS is ridiculous...

15,257 DEADLY MUSLIM terrorist attacks have been carried out......since 9/11

two DEADLY attacks already today 05/07/2010
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

would anyone like to counter my argument with facts regarding "DEADLY" Christian attacks?
post #29 of 122
This old lady gets stripped searched.


Meanwhile this guy gets right on the plane no problems.
post #30 of 122
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Originally Posted by vlandsponger View Post
you're right! YOUR ignorance of the FACTS is ridiculous...

15,257 DEADLY MUSLIM terrorist attacks have been carried out......since 9/11

two DEADLY attacks already today 05/07/2010
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

would anyone like to counter my argument with facts regarding "DEADLY" Christian attacks?
anyone? USMC? Enickma? side stepping the FACTS are easy....what religion produces the most terrorists and what are the percentages in comparison to other religions....find that and tell me I'm wrong and then I'll take back my "we should profile Muslims" comment...
post #31 of 122
You're DEAD WRONG. More people have been killed in the name of Christianity than any religion combined.
post #32 of 122
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Originally Posted by USMC View Post
You're DEAD WRONG. More people have been killed in the name of Christianity than any religion combined.
since 9/11? When "terrorism"/"terrorist" became a standard term in the American language?

I'm living in the real world..todays world...you can argue "in the past" all you want...last I checked christians weren't riding around on horses in my country proclaiming a "crusade"...


BTW, facts?
post #33 of 122
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Originally Posted by vlandsponger View Post
anyone? USMC? Enickma? side stepping the FACTS are easy....what religion produces the most terrorists and what are the percentages in comparison to other religions....find that and tell me I'm wrong and then I'll take back my "we should profile Muslims" comment...
You're talkin to the wrong dude if you're trying to find someone to defend Islam. I'm an atheist. It all seems so very ridiculous to me.

I'm still trying to find out what you mean by "profiling"
post #34 of 122
Islam is the only modern religion I know of that wants to annihilate anyone who is not islamic and considers Christians, Jews, Buddhist and any other religion dirty. Wtf, how can you hate a Buddhist? Don't say that's radical islam, because they all read the koran and it instructs its followers to do as such. They're all heathens if you ask me.
post #35 of 122
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Originally Posted by Big Shurl View Post
Islam is the only modern religion I know of that wants to annihilate anyone who is not islamic and considers Christians, Jews, Buddhist and any other religion dirty. Wtf, how can you hate a Buddhist? Don't say that's radical islam, because they all read the koran and it instructs its followers to do as such. They're all heathens if you ask me.
When the Torah/Old Testament is advocating the annihilation of all Gentiles, you claim that Christians don't interpret it literally. Yet when the Koran has similar verses of violence, you believe that Muslims wish to annihilate their neighbors.

This is whilst ignoring that Jewish/Christian Communities have lived amongst Muslim communities without being annihilated.
post #36 of 122
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Originally Posted by vlandsponger View Post


BTW, facts?
Study history.
post #37 of 122
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Originally Posted by Big Shurl View Post
Islam is the only modern religion I know of that wants to annihilate anyone who is not islamic and considers Christians, Jews, Buddhist and any other religion dirty. Wtf, how can you hate a Buddhist? Don't say that's radical islam, because they all read the koran and it instructs its followers to do as such. They're all heathens if you ask me.
2 Chronicles 15 | 2 Chronicles 16

12 And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, 13 but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.
post #38 of 122

Here's more I stole from the Internet

Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish:

You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11

Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5
post #39 of 122
I said modern. Franklin Graham isn't out there telling Christians to murder islamic folks. There are a ton of islamic preachers who do.
post #40 of 122
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Originally Posted by rgman27 View Post
When the Torah/Old Testament is advocating the annihilation of all Gentiles, you claim that Christians don't interpret it literally. Yet when the Koran has similar verses of violence, you believe that Muslims wish to annihilate their neighbors.

This is whilst ignoring that Jewish/Christian Communities have lived amongst Muslim communities without being annihilated.
I don't speak farsi so I can only go on what Glen Beck tells me.
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