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There have been cases of all types of people (whites and blacks included) attempting to do just that. If you profile only Muslims, then what do you do about terrorists of other races (or even Muslims who are not of middle eastern descent)?
MUSLIMS do NOT only come from the middle east... and yes there have been cases of people in AFRICA doing these things.
So what if they are black, that makes then exempt? I suppose the majority of religious beliefs in Africa is not mulism ? if hes black he must not be from the middle east ... or a terrorist?


ideally IMO - i would take my chances with a american nut job backwoods fanatic... than a revenge bent Muslim.
post #102 of 122
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Originally Posted by Booyah View Post
In the event that you fail to remember who killed 3,000 Americans on the morning of September 11th, 2001, here is a reminder of what they look like.




For some like USMC and the King you might believe that profiling individuals that appear to be of middle eastern discent and muslim is a little to much. They would rather put people that look like this on the No Fly List....



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i would take my chances with a american nut job backwoods fanatic... than a revenge bent Muslim.
Hahaha Any day
post #103 of 122
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Hahaha Any day
Oh, you win. I guess there are no white, Slavic, or Asian Muslims.
post #104 of 122
I'm sorry did you say there was a group of middle aged males from white suburbia that killed 3,000 people on one day?

Please show & tell.
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Taliban behind Times Square plot, says US
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...istani-taliban

google images for "taliban"

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q...og&sa=N&tab=wi

so WHO should we profile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

morons!
post #106 of 122
I do not understand. This is for your own damn security. Obviously lets stop wasting time on people like:


and start devoting are time to questioning individuals like the 9/11 terrorist..




Gee I could swear that old man has a dirty bomb hidden next to his catheter
post #107 of 122
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MUSLIMS do NOT only come from the middle east... and yes there have been cases of people in AFRICA doing these things.
So what if they are black, that makes then exempt? I suppose the majority of religious beliefs in Africa is not mulism ? if hes black he must not be from the middle east ... or a terrorist?


ideally IMO - i would take my chances with a american nut job backwoods fanatic... than a revenge bent Muslim.
If there are many blacks committing terrorism, then profile blacks. If Hispanics are committing terrorism, then profile Hispanics. I have no problem with racial profiling, when its necessary. What you're proposing is profiling based on religion.

The only way to do that is to profile ALL non-whites. Am I on to something here?
post #108 of 122
I can't tell if the problems is, people just do not believe generalizations can ever be made, or if people are so afraid of racism that they're willing to die (or at least let their neighbor die) to protect the rights of those who, while they fit the stereotype, they are not evil.

Inevitably someone steps up and says, "Muslims are killing people all over the world" and the response is to point back hundreds of years to when Christians were guilty of the same.

Someone says that, "Terrorists are Muslim" and someone points to one or two non Muslim terror attacks in the past few decades.

In my job I cannot rule anyone out as a Terrorist. Ever. At the same time, I can't say everyone is a possible Terrorist.

Let me put it another way around. We have something called BOLO's that get posted every now and again. It means "Be On The Lookout". It has nothing to do with Terrorists, although a Terrorist can be a BOLO. But a BOLO can be anything or anyone. Maybe a bank was just robbed and so they put out a BOLO on the suspect. Or maybe there is an Amber Alert and so they put out a BOLO for the child or the kidnapper.

You get the idea.

Now, if I get one or two BOLO's a week, that's not a problem. That's how the human mind works. I can focus on looking for one or two different people that cross my path. I can take a double take of someone each time the description hits me. For example, if i'm looking for a tall, blond, blue eyed, male in his mid 50's, with long hair, then every time I see someone with that description, I can look again to see if they fit the picture.

But when you start putting 20, or 50, or 100 BOLO's out every week, forget it. There's no way I can look for that many people. It's just not possible, unless you've got a photographic memory.

So, I can assume every single person is a terrorist until they satisfy me that they are otherwise (Which is like getting 1000's of BOLO's every week) or I can narrow down my realm of possibilities and have a much better chance of stopping a terrorist.

I hope that made sense. My point is, if you make me look at everyone equally, then no one will ever be stopped. If you allow me to combine my experience with my knowledge and past encounters to do my job, i'll have a much better chance of keeping all of us safe.
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[QUOTE=Baggi;2469161]It's just not possible, unless you've got a photographic memory.
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Perhaps that should be a standard for entering law enforcement.
post #110 of 122
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Obama and Janet Napolitano Appointed Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim, as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore-in Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim, who was born in Damascus, Syria, as ADC National Executive Director as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).

NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just wondering.

Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesn't this make you feel safer already?? That should make our home land much safer, huh!!

Was it not "Devout Muslim men" that flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago? Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood ?

but why do they need to state "DEVOUT"? how many devout Christains have we heard of? How many devout Jews have we heard of? Why is it that they need to add this extra word? are they more devoted then everyone else?
post #111 of 122
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Was it not "Devout Muslim men" that flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago? Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood ?

but why do they need to state "DEVOUT"? how many devout Christains have we heard of? How many devout Jews have we heard of? Why is it that they need to add this extra word? are they more devoted then everyone else?
Ford Hood is actually a perfect example of the point I'm trying to make. By looking at the suspect, would you be able to tell he's Muslim?



His parents are from Jordan, but honestly, he looks Hispanic to me. So am I right with suggesting that the only way to profile Muslims would be to profile all non-whites?
post #112 of 122
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In the event that you fail to remember who killed 3,000 Americans on the morning of September 11th, 2001, here is a reminder of what they look like.

Ron Jeremy is a terrorist?!?!?!?!?!

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Yes Ron Jeremy is a Terrorist
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Ron Jeremy is a terrorist?!?!?!?!?!

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Yes Ron Jeremy is a Terrorist
I knew it!! Ill bet Peter North is too
post #116 of 122
that Ron Jeremy is one Lucky guy...
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I knew it!! Ill bet Peter North is too
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AG Holder Refuses to Say ‘Radical Islam’ Is a Cause of Terrorism Committed by Muslims

http://www.breitbart.tv/ag-holder-re...ed-by-muslims/

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I don't speak farsi so I can only go on what Glen Beck tells me.
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More people have been killed in the name
of Socialism than any religion combined.
ummmm....and the funny thing is....do you know who was the biggest socialist ever? well in christinaity ofcourse:

JESUS .....and I am not talking about your mexican neighbor.....I am talking about your LORD.
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