The Bible, Jesus and God - (we cant just go making things up)? a discussion - Page 5

Hedonistic Atheism makes much more sense.

I'll just worship myself...I know I'm perfect.

Yeh, I don't really understand the concept of God sacrificing himself to himself for precarious redemption.

Dear Gen1GT,

That was quite possibly the most disrespectful summary of the Crucifixion I've ever read...too disrespectful to even quote... This is just another reason I feel this place (HSM) would be better off without you around. Debate should be welcomed, disrespect shouldn't be tolerated. You can disagree with my beliefs, but you may not call them BS...

So I'll thank you to keep your insulting generalizations to yourself in the future. THANKS!

A lack of understanding is okay.

In all your seeking, seek wisdom.

In all your getting, get understanding.

That was written by a bunch of animal sacrificing sheep herders.

Gen I respect your own beliefs; however, I think you're gonna be in for a rude awakening when you pass on.

If pointing out logical flaws in mythological stories is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

Human beings are remarkably good at creating false gods.

Here's a list of just a few of them.

There is one common intrinsic value that every single one of these false gods had in common: you needed to have "faith" in order to accept the simple fact of their intangible existence.

If you think about this, all false religions would have to have this requirement. Since obviously any false religion would not be able to provide proof, they would need to discourage people from thinking critically, and justify the faith as a "virtue" or as "necessary" for free will etc.

What you believe is the one "true" God; enough though, this one "true" God also requires the same faith that all of the false gods required.

Do you really congratulate yourself over having discovered the one true God? Have you considered that possibly Jesus and Jehovah are yet two more in a long line of gods made up by men?

He might wind up in heaven with Oral Roberts, Pat Robertson, Ted Haggard and all Gods homophobic, filicidal, genocidal, murdering, sadist, misogynistic, pedophile, and racist cohorts?



This is really for any of you on here -- Do you all really believe every word in the bible is true? The stoning of fortunetellers? Unicorns?

Is there one action conducted by a person that was noble, altruistic or benevolent that can exclusively be attributed to religion? Such as that a person wouldn't have done it given they didn't do it out of fear of gods wrath?

Now how many vile or sleazy actions and vitriolic things said can you recall particularly being only done in the name of religion?

They need to add Prince Philip onto the list. He is worshiped by some natives on a Pacific Island. They think he is the son of spirit.

Christian sensabilities are so easily offended. I'm offended by the stupidity of the Trinity, yet all of you don't care that you insult my intelligence. NO Christian here is senstative to the non-belief of an Atheist. NONE!

You never hear a Christian say, "Oh, Josh (yes, I get the irony) is atheist, I better not say 'God bless you' to him when he sneezes." It's more like, "Josh is an atheist. Watch this, I'm going to say 'God bless you' when he sneezes!"

PS. There's still not one person on here that can explain the Trinity to me and have it make any sense. I challenge all of you to do so.

IMO...The origins of the Bible,...whether it was "inspired" by divine intervention, was intended as a behavioral "blueprint" for a human civilization seeded here as an experiment by some benevolent extraterrestrial civilization or resulted from a recognition of "Universal Consciousness" makes no difference. The main thing is that its premise is based on living a life of "righteousness", love for our neighbors and living in harmony with nature and the Universe.

According to scripture, we were "created in GODS image", which could be interpreted that the human race was started as "clones" from an alien source. That implies the "aliens" must be of humanoid form. Who is to say that all of the "events" in the Bible were not caused by our alien "creator" to keep us on the right track and "cull the herd" of imperfections? I know, this sounds blasphemous to professed Christians, or even crazy to some of the Agnostics or Atheists in the forum, suggesting that we're all the result of an alien experiment. But it's no more off the wall than the wild suggestion that everything came from "nothing" for no apparent purpose...or that we're the result of a cosmic crap-shoot.

Our science has only evolved for the past few thousand years since the times of ancient Sumeria. Based on scientific estimates of the age of the Universe, advanced extraterrestrial life forms, light years away, would regard our technology the same as we would regard cave men before the discovery of fire. Would cave men regard us as GODS? Were cave men one of ET's failed experiments? Were we put here as the replacement for cave men? Why is there no "missing link" in the fossil records?...

There's no need to follow religious gurus, famous personalities or Earthly leaders. The Earth is our home in the Universe. Whether or not you believe in a GOD is of no concern to me. I have "faith" that something or someone with eternal spiritual energy and incomprehensible creativity "designed" our Reality. How we choose to experience the "gift" of Reality is left up to us. The question of whether an "afterlife" awaits us is a moot point. My belief in an all powerful, creative entity leaves no doubt in my mind that I have an eternal soul and that it will join my "creator" at the time of my passing...All you non-believing unfaithful Atheists are on your own!

2SHEA

Perhaps because there are not that many people looking for it. Most are stumbled on by mistake.

Furthermore, Fossils are not overflowing in abundance in general. They are relatively hard to form and then to find them is even harder.

Anyway, we don't need fossils. Science has moved on a bit since then. Genetics.

1. It's not our problem if you are intolerable.
2. I'm pretty sure no one here generalized atheists as "idiots"...as you did with Christians...
3. It doesn't have to make sense to you, that's where faith comes in. Besides, if your beliefs hinge on what your human brain can completely comprehend, you are incapable of beliefs... You have faith in many things that you can't prove, you just refuse to admit it... Atheism is a good example; it requires faith to be an atheist...

rgman, the "missing link" argument is called The God of the Gaps claim. Since we don't have human ancestry linked every 1000 years for the past million, every gap in the evolution of humans that doesn't yet have fossil evidence is somehow considered proof that God exists and created us. Hence, "God of the Gaps."

The ace in the hole for creationism, is that for every gap we fill with fossil evidence, we just create two more gaps; two more "missing links" as it were. How convenient for them...

Only an idiot would believe in the Trinity...sorry.

Would you think I was an idiot of I still believed in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and Big Foot?

Also, how does it require faith to be an Atheist? That's kind of the opposite of what it means.

Just stop posting already.

It's because if God does not exist and thats what you believe how can it offend you? That does not make sense.

If someone believes in God, then it makes sense they can get offended.

I thought there were mounds of fossils and evidence?

And there is a huge missing link, no one is asking for a fossil every 1000 years...every 10000,20000 or maybe even 50000 would work. Heck maybe even every 200,000 if it really shows man evolving.

I agree with you on that one

I have no problem with religions, I have problems with men that claim they speak on behalf of religions.

Or God?


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