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post #101 of 143
FBI reports big decrease in murders, big increase in gun sales. Hey, how is that possible?
January 4, 2010, 1:04 pm ·

More guns, less crime? Looks like America’s Second Amendment enemies shot their mouths off one too many times. The basic tenet of their anti-gun religion has just been disproved by a new FBI crime report.

The NRA gleefully reports the depressing details for dogmatic Democrats:

Last week, the FBI issued its preliminary 2009 crime report, showing that the number of murders in the first half of 2009 decreased 10 percent compared to the first half of 2008. If the trend holds for the remainder of 2009, it will be the single greatest one-year decrease in the number of murders since at least 1960, the earliest year for which national data are available through the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Also, the per capita murder rate for 2009 will be 51 percent lower than the all-time high recorded in 1991, and it will be the lowest rate since 1963—a 46-year low. Final figures for 2009 will be released by the FBI next year.

According to gun control supporter dogma—“more guns means more crime”—the number of privately owned firearms must have decreased 10 percent in 2009. To the contrary, however, the number rose between 1.5 and 2 percent, to an all-time high. For the better part of the last 15 months, firearms, ammunition, and “large” ammunition magazines have been sold in what appear to be record quantities. And, the firearms that were most commonly purchased in 2009 are those that gun control supporters most want to be banned—AR-15s, similar semi-automatic rifles, and handguns designed for defense. The National Shooting Sports Foundation already estimates record ammunition sales in 2009, dominated by .223 Remington, 7.62×39mm, 9mm and other calibers widely favored for defensive purposes.

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post #102 of 143
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Originally Posted by QuestSolver View Post
FBI Reports Huge Decrease In Murders As Firearm, Ammunition And “Large” Magazine Sales Soar

Tuesday, December 29, 2009

Last week, the FBI issued its preliminary 2009 crime report, showing that the number of murders in the first half of 2009 decreased 10 percent compared to the first half of 2008. If the trend holds for the remainder of 2009, it will be the single greatest one-year decrease in the number of murders since at least 1960, the earliest year for which national data are available through the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Also, the per capita murder rate for 2009 will be 51 percent lower than the all-time high recorded in 1991, and it will be the lowest rate since 1963—a 46-year low. Final figures for 2009 will be released by the FBI next year.



According to gun control supporter dogma—“more guns means more crime”—the number of privately owned firearms must have decreased 10 percent in 2009. To the contrary, however, the number rose between 1.5 and 2 percent, to an all-time high. For the better part of the last 15 months, firearms, ammunition, and “large” ammunition magazines have been sold in what appear to be record quantities. And, the firearms that were most commonly purchased in 2009 are those that gun control supporters most want to be banned—AR-15s, similar semi-automatic rifles, and handguns designed for defense. The National Shooting Sports Foundation already estimates record ammunition sales in 2009, dominated by .223 Remington, 7.62x39mm, 9mm and other calibers widely favored for defensive purposes.
Oh great- not you again. And you base the aforementioned that guns in the community prevents crime? That's absurd.
post #103 of 143
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Originally Posted by USMC View Post
You seem very homophobic. Do you have similar feelings about your gayness. You know, those that spew so much hate about gays probably are themselves. I've seen this type of behavior many times and the conclusion is always the same.
I'm sure you've "seen" it many times...
the "sign" heteros give to . . .HOMOS!
. .


DON'T ASK...DON'T TELL, RIGHT?
DOES IT STILL WORK ON PUNKS LIKE YOU?. . .
post #104 of 143
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Originally Posted by 2SHEA View Post
I'm sure you've "seen" it many times...
the "sign" heteros give to . . .HOMOS!
. .


DON'T ASK...DON'T TELL, RIGHT?
DOES IT STILL WORK ON PUNKS LIKE YOU?. . .
2Shea quit denying your sexuality- just embrace it. I won't judge you, and it's not "wrong."
post #105 of 143
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Originally Posted by 2SHEA View Post
The difference between Canada and the US is the Canadians roll over every time their government tells them to. We don't care what goes on in the frozen North.
In the USA, when politicians try to abuse their power over us, we raise complaints and make our voices heard! If that doesn't work, we peacefully march on the capitol.
Being vocal in the protection of our freedoms is better than doing nothing at all. I can't say the same for the Canadians. They're LOST without a "structured environment".
Being trained (brainwashed) to ACCEPT government interference is considered "normal" to most Canadians, no matter how restrictive or imposing Big Brother gets.
As for:

You can have ALL of the queers from the US that will fit into Ontario. Especially San Francisco (Gay Bay) fags. They masturbate and perform fellatio in public...real SICK mofo's!
Pot heads, Peter-puffers, Perverts, Pornography and Atheists...Ssomething only a Canadian would want to brag about...ay!?... But again, that's considered "normal" in Canada...
Our prisons are overcrowded because of the "War on Drugs" and the "prisons for profit" schemes hatched by G Dubya and crony agencies like DEA, ATFE, USBoP; etc.
PM Stephen Harper, in 2009, pushed for mandatory prison terms for certain drug crimes and making all gang-related homicides automatic first-degree murder.
How much will that expand your prison population? Canadians sit in jail for months waiting on their trial...denied bond! How is that considered a freedom? Guilty until proven innocent?
Our education and health care are every bit as good or BETTER than Canada. Your HC is free, that's all you ever say! But the WAITING time is MONTHS for life saving procedures.
Before long, Canada will be predominantly homo-sexual couples...so abortions will be unnecessary...
Where are the stem cells going to come from for research? Adult cells would have to be used because embryonic and cord cells would be non-existent....
The reason same sex couples can marry, the reason abortion is legal etc, is it's because it's what the citizens wanted. I'm not sure if you remember, but we're a democracy. Imagine that! You vote the people into power that represent your views! We don't have to fight, or pretend like if we arm ourselves we could ever overthrow the government. Imagine living in a place where the citizens ask for something and then get it? Does it work all the time? Hell no, because nobody can agree on everything. But it sure is a great place to live!

Now, you wanna sit there and bitch about the morality of Canadian freedoms, but fact is,

WE'RE STILL MORE FREE THAN YOU ARE!

post #106 of 143
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Originally Posted by Gen1GT View Post
The reason same sex couples can marry, the reason abortion is legal etc, is it's because it's what the citizens wanted. I'm not sure if you remember, but we're a democracy. Imagine that! You vote the people into power that represent your views! We don't have to fight, or pretend like if we arm ourselves we could ever overthrow the government. Imagine living in a place where the citizens ask for something and then get it? Does it work all the time? Hell no, because nobody can agree on everything. But it sure is a great place to live!

Now, you wanna sit there and bitch about the morality of Canadian freedoms, but fact is,

WE'RE STILL MORE FREE THAN YOU ARE!

ROTFLMAO...I asked for a list of your "freedoms" and it was ALL morally related!
Democracy = Mob rule...That's alright! "Morals" don't exist in Canada...We all know that!...
Homos are spineless cowards. That's why there's more queers there. They're easy to control!
Just give them a "pacifier" to suck on...and they'll do anything their New World Order PM wants!
post #107 of 143
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Originally Posted by USMC View Post
You seem very homophobic. Do you have similar feelings about your gayness. You know, those that spew so much hate about gays probably are themselves. I've seen this type of behavior many times and the conclusion is always the same.
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2Shea quit denying your sexuality- just embrace it. I won't judge you, and it's not "wrong."

It all makes sense now! Your repeated mentioning of all things gay lately all fits in, lol.
post #108 of 143
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Originally Posted by Runswithscissors View Post
It all makes sense now! Your repeated mentioning of all things gay lately all fits in, lol.
Oh look, it's the other closeted homosexual, RunningWithPomPoms.
post #109 of 143
i love my guns.. i want more.. does that make me a criminal? am i going to commit a crime? Does the goverment have ESP and can tell what im going to do, i think not.
post #110 of 143
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Originally Posted by mjoke View Post
i love my guns.. i want more.. does that make me a criminal? am i going to commit a crime? Does the goverment have ESP and can tell what im going to do, i think not.
I love your guns too, in the U.S. where they belong that is...
post #111 of 143
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Originally Posted by mjoke View Post
i love my guns.. i want more.. does that make me a criminal? am i going to commit a crime? Does the goverment have ESP and can tell what im going to do, i think not.
I do too, but there has to be responsibility and accountability.

mJoke, it's very simple......... Should wackjobs like 2Shea and Techunter have guns. Story closed.
post #112 of 143
The problem is that brainwashed Americans believe that guns should be in the hands of every American to "protect our freedom." That's ridiculous. What's even more ridiculous is that these same gun freaks, fueled by ignorant members of the NRA, believe that guns in the hands of Americans prevents crime- that's ridiculous. Most people are completely ignorant and incapable of making decisions as far as gun use.
post #113 of 143
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Originally Posted by USMC View Post
I do too, but there has to be responsibility and accountability.

mJoke, it's very simple......... Should wackjobs like 2Shea and Techunter have guns. Story closed.
yeah, in the U.S. no one should be denied a firearm otherwise according to the constitution it is an infringement on their right to defend themselves against government attacks. Government attacks on who? 'We the people', thats who. Now, correct me if I a wrong but who wrote the Constitution? Was it 'We the people'? or was it the government? or, is 'we the people' and the government one in the same? because if 'we the people' and the government are one in the same, then who are these guns that everyone wants so bad a god given right to protect against? the government, we the people, or are they one in the same or both? I ask since the right to bear arms is in the constitution for the people to feel safe from the government. In any case, this spells nothing but Anarchy, since if people are so afraid of their own government and each other that it has to be written in the Constitution that one has the right to bear arms for this reason then there really is no order in the U.S. I must also ask, since the Constitution clearly states the 'right to bear arms', it does not specify whether those arms can be a gun, a bazooka, a grenade, a pipe bomb, a dirty bomb, a nail bomb, a molatov cocktail, an axe, why then does the law in the U.S. prohibit its citizen for making their own arms at home or using any of the aforementioned arms? Does U.S. law and lawmakers supersede the country's own constitution? Sounds pretty hypocritical and vague to me. Not to bash to U.S. but, the old saying goes, 'only in America'...
post #114 of 143
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Originally Posted by USMC View Post
I do too, but there has to be responsibility and accountability.

mJoke, it's very simple......... Should wackjobs like 2Shea and Techunter have guns. Story closed.
yes they should, because it will be these wackos who stand and fight when it comes down to it. Do you think the revolutionists who won our freedom were all sane people?!?! The same traits you embrace because you protect the said freedom serving your country. So how can you declare who has the right to own weapons or not?

its farrr different to own a gun for protection and actually use one to commit a crime, and the assumption of just having a gun makes you a criminal is not adequate.

I always laugh at the "innocent until proven guilty" when its really the other way around. guess same outlook is applied to gun ownership.

I can also say, should they have a penis? or because they haven't gotten anyone pregnant yet, to remove that also?
post #115 of 143
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Originally Posted by mjoke View Post
yes they should, because it will be these wackos who stand and fight when it comes down to it.
its farrr different to own a gun for protection and actually use one to commit a crime, and the assumption of just having a gun makes you a criminal is not adequate.

I always laugh at the "innocent until proven guilty" when its really the other way around. guess same outlook is applied to fun ownership.

I can also say, should they have a penis? or because they haven't gotten anyone pregnant yet, to remove that also?
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Originally Posted by theone View Post
yeah, in the U.S. no one should be denied a firearm otherwise according to the constitution it is an infringement on their right to defend themselves against government attacks. Government attacks on who? 'We the people', thats who. Now, correct me if I a wrong but who wrote the Constitution? Was it 'We the people'? or was it the government? or, is 'we the people' and the government one in the same? because if 'we the people' and the government are one in the same, then who are these guns that everyone wants so bad a god given right to protect against? the government, we the people, or are they one in the same or both? I ask since the right to bear arms is in the constitution for the people to feel safe from the government. In any case, this spells nothing but Anarchy, since if people are so afraid of their own government and each other that it has to be written in the Constitution that one has the right to bear arms for this reason then there really is no order in the U.S. I must also ask, since the Constitution clearly states the 'right to bear arms', it does not specify whether those arms can be a gun, a bazooka, a grenade, a pipe bomb, a dirty bomb, a nail bomb, a molatov cocktail, an axe, why then does the law in the U.S. prohibit its citizen for making their own arms at home or using any of the aforementioned arms? Does U.S. law and lawmakers supersede the country's own constitution? Sounds pretty hypocritical and vague to me. Not to bash to U.S. but, the old saying goes, 'only in America'...
answer the questions, don't bury my post with nonsense...
post #116 of 143
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Originally Posted by theone View Post
yeah, in the U.S. no one should be denied a firearm otherwise according to the constitution it is an infringement on their right to defend themselves against government attacks. Government attacks on who? 'We the people', thats who. Now, correct me if I a wrong but who wrote the Constitution? Was it 'We the people'? or was it the government? or, is 'we the people' and the government one in the same? because if 'we the people' and the government are one in the same, then who are these guns that everyone wants so bad a god given right to protect against? the government, we the people, or are they one in the same or both? I ask since the right to bear arms is in the constitution for the people to feel safe from the government. In any case, this spells nothing but Anarchy, since if people are so afraid of their own government and each other that it has to be written in the Constitution that one has the right to bear arms for this reason then there really is no order in the U.S. I must also ask, since the Constitution clearly states the 'right to bear arms', it does not specify whether those arms can be a gun, a bazooka, a grenade, a pipe bomb, a dirty bomb, a nail bomb, a molatov cocktail, an axe, why then does the law in the U.S. someone for making their own arms at home or using any of the aforementioned arms? Does U.S. law and lawmakers supersede the country's own constitution? Sounds pretty hypocritical and vague to me. Not to bash to U.S. but, the old saying goes, 'only in America'...
That's the fallacy of the American 2nd Amendment. That amendment was added over a hundred years ago. The original authors would be flabbergasted of their actions then- we're talking about muskets. They NEVER intended on the interpretations of these current wack job Americans believe it was written.
post #117 of 143
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Originally Posted by theone View Post
answer the questions, don't bury my post with nonsense...
nonsense to you perhaps, dont get full of yourself.
post #118 of 143
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Originally Posted by mjoke View Post
yes they should, because it will be these wackos who stand and fight when it comes down to it. Do you think the revolutionists who won our freedom were all sane people?!?! The same traits you embrace because you protect the said freedom serving your country. So how can you declare who has the right to own weapons or not?

its farrr different to own a gun for protection and actually use one to commit a crime, and the assumption of just having a gun makes you a criminal is not adequate.

I always laugh at the "innocent until proven guilty" when its really the other way around. guess same outlook is applied to gun ownership.

I can also say, should they have a penis? or because they haven't gotten anyone pregnant yet, to remove that also?
Guy's I'm tired and headed to bed. I'll debate this one tomorrow.
post #119 of 143
i said ya the nut jobs should have guns. \
if they have no mental conditions why not.

No gun ban has ever proved a decline in gun crime, infact, gun ownership does prevent crime..

ya ya ya im reading ur statement there, i see the questions.
post #120 of 143
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Originally Posted by USMC View Post
2Shea quit denying your sexuality- just embrace it. I won't judge you, and it's not "wrong."
Another one of Gomer Pyle of shits' LIES! What has he been doing if not "judging" people by his own affirmations?
definition: confirmation or ratification of the truth or validity of a prior judgment, decision, etc.
Projecting guilt on others: Psychology. to ascribe one's own feelings, thoughts, or attitudes to others.

Just because I think gays are sick, devious, perverts that have no moral character doesn't make me homophobic.
And from my perspective, what they represent is WRONG...but we all know your only taking that attitude to seem sincere.

Yeah Gomer...your starting to show what a POSER is made of. Literal hatred for anyone that exposes your LIES.
Why else would you bring "judgment" on other members?... except to cover your own faults! You're a POSER and a LIAR!
Just go back and read the hate and accusations in the last few pages! If that doesn't convince people of your "character"...nothing will!
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