what do Jesus Christ, JFK and Adolf Hitler have in common?

Originally Posted by Janie

What do Jesus Christ, JFK and Adolf Hitler have in common?

I noticed how your question is in present tense. Interesting.
Anyway, my answer is that it's possible that all are noted in history as being great orators.

I believe that Jesus Christ & JFK were widely known as loving individuals, but Hitler was not. I believe that most people, as I do, consider Hitler to have been a monster.

Originally Posted by Janie

Hi Mjoke. Are you any relation to the Zoltans? I have a friend whose great, great(?) aunt and uncle came here as young children from Austria. He showed me old news paper articles of pictures of them exiting the ocean liner from which they were smuggled escaping from Europe. My friend tells me that if they were captured they would've been killed.. everyone else in their family was. My friend is blond and unusually fair. I've often teased him about the fact that all he would need is pink eyes to be classified as an albino. No offense to any albinos out there. I think it's very cool.

About Hitler being a monster. He most definitely was a monster. I understand the economic conditions which felled Germany after WWI, and I also understand that the Jews were very adept at business & liked to do business amongst themselves. The way I see it, Hitler saw the Jews as an easy target and preyed upon them. He was a great orator & used his talents to convince his countrymen that the Jews were the reason for all their problems.

I was traumatized upon finding out about the atrocities which Hitler not only allowed to happen but ordered his favorite SS side-kick to do.

I remember the day that I found out. I remember the nun casually trying to convince me that what she was telling me was indeed a part of history. I remember her repeating herself in a calm and caring manner.. probably aware that it was all just a little too much for me.

I have always been a voracious reader. I'm most likely able to give you the name of any of the leading characters of most of the classics, can't most people?

But for the life of me, I cannot remember any of the names of the people from The Diary of Anne Frank. I must have read that book at least 3 times in school. I know the characters, but I can't remember their names. I know the boy who was heartbroken by the loss of his cat, but I can't remember his name. I can't even remember the cat's name. And that is very odd for me. I've named my pets after heroic characters or authors.

It's taken me a while to figure out why, but I think it's because, the subject of the Nazis and the effect they had on the millions of innocent Jewish people who suffered under their atrocious regime has always since the very beginning been just a little too horrific for me to deal with.

Hitler wasn't a fictional character. He was a real person, if you want to call him a person. I prefer monster. I think he was a monster, and I think that not only because of what he did, but of what he planned to do. He wasn't happy to stop with the innocent Jews. His agenda included everyone & anyone who didn't fit into his plan.

You mention that you Hitler did the same thing that anyone else would have done to protect his country.. Not touching upon the atrocities.

I strongly beg to differ with you. And how can you discuss Hitler, without touching upon the atrocities? I can't. Too me they are one and the same.
There is no valid reason.. no rationalization which could justify the pain that this monster inflicted on the innocent people who had to suffer under his "plan."

You mention that with every genius comes insanity. Don't they also say that there can be a fine line between the two? Well, I say that where Hitler is involved, there is a big bold line separating the two, and he was not in any way shape of form a genius. But I do think he had to be insane to do what he did. Just think about the mind behind his actions. He had to be insane.

Originally Posted by Janie

Well at least we agree that Hitler was indeed insane & Christ’s problems all began when he kicked the Money Changers out of The Temple.

Hitler failed to accomplish his horrific plan to populate the earth with his Arian race & destroy everyone who didn’t fit into his plan.

But Christ and JFK were success stories in the fact that they both had a positive effect on the world.

What families are you taking about, that you can trace them back to the time of Christ & beyond. What are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Janie

Theone, I do get it that you are very focused on the money lenders. But there are other ways to mark one's success in life. I believe that Christ & JFK are both examples of great success stories. Their names are known world wide. And just taking the U.S. for example, both are loved for who they were and for the ideals for which they stood. Also, I think it's safe to say that overall they were good men.

I can't be completely sure, but I would bet that Christ wore his hair split down the middle, or not at all. Of course, it is just a guess.