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Jesus Christ - his persecution began when he 'kicked the money lenders out of his father's house' and ended with his execution...

JFK - wanted to eliminate the federal reserve (the money lenders), he wound up dead as well and without getting into the whole conspiracy behind his death, its pretty clear the government had a hand in it, otherwise there would be no case files sealed until such a date that anyone that could have possibly been incriminated would be dead by such date the case files will be release...

Adolf Hitler - believe it or not, this man had the same idea as the two above. Without getting into the atrocites and what Hitler's goal perverted itself into, which I have never condoned (I am not denying the holocaust but identifying Hitler's original premise), he actually wanted the same thing Christ did but used the opposite tactics Christ did, Christ attempted this through education and diplomacy and Hitler attemted this with sheer force, thus the 'anti-Christ' moniker... well enough said, he not only wound up dead but also earned the reputation as the most hated man in history...

the moral of this story? the fed is here to stay and any leader that opposes slavery through debt will be loved by its people initially but come to the same demise...

National debt, trillions and counting... who will pay this? we will... never...
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National debt, trillions and counting... who will pay this? we will... never...
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Jesus Christ - his persecution began when he 'kicked the money lenders out of his father's house' and ended with his execution...

JFK - wanted to eliminate the federal reserve (the money lenders), he wound up dead as well and without getting into the whole conspiracy behind his death, its pretty clear the government had a hand in it, otherwise there would be no case files sealed until such a date that anyone that could have possibly been incriminated would be dead by such date the case files will be release...

Adolf Hitler - believe it or not, this man had the same idea as the two above. Without getting into the atrocites and what Hitler's goal perverted itself into, which I have never condoned (I am not denying the holocaust but identifying Hitler's original premise), he actually wanted the same thing Christ did but used the opposite tactics Christ did, Christ attempted this through education and diplomacy and Hitler attemted this with sheer force, thus the 'anti-Christ' moniker... well enough said, he not only wound up dead but also earned the reputation as the most hated man in history...

the moral of this story? the fed is here to stay and any leader that opposes slavery through debt will be loved by its people initially but come to the same demise...

National debt, trillions and counting... who will pay this? we will... never...
How about cutting your dod budget by like 60%?
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Have you heard about his 10-yr plan?
It starts next year.




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What do Jesus Christ, JFK and Adolf Hitler have in common?

I noticed how your question is in present tense. Interesting.
Anyway, my answer is that it's possible that all are noted in history as being great orators.

I believe that Jesus Christ & JFK were widely known as loving individuals, but Hitler was not. I believe that most people, as I do, consider Hitler to have been a monster.
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What do Jesus Christ, JFK and Adolf Hitler have in common?

I noticed how your question is in present tense. Interesting.
Anyway, my answer is that it's possible that all are noted in history as being great orators.

I believe that Jesus Christ & JFK were widely known as loving individuals, but Hitler was not. I believe that most people, as I do, consider Hitler to have been a monster.
I used to work with a guy who's father was a Regiment
Commander in Der Fuhrer's Army. His earliest memories as
a five year old were of walking Hand-in-Hand through the
Forest near Eagle's Nest Retreat with Adolf. Even being
bounced on his knee! Adolf had a great love of Children -
Just not you or Me... unless you're white & Tribal Germanic.




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post #7 of 71
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Originally Posted by Janie View Post
What do Jesus Christ, JFK and Adolf Hitler have in common?

I noticed how your question is in present tense. Interesting.
Anyway, my answer is that it's possible that all are noted in history as being great orators.

I believe that Jesus Christ & JFK were widely known as loving individuals, but Hitler was not. I believe that most people, as I do, consider Hitler to have been a monster.

ummm, no for starters each one of these men had Jewish roots at one point or another in their family tree, Christ was a Jew, JFK had Jewish ancestors and Adolf Hitler was the bastard son of an Austrian Jew who commited adultry and fathered Adolf Hitler with one of his servants...

the irony is that each one of these men wanted to rid their respective society of the money lenders and down the line met their respective demise...
post #8 of 71
Actually, Hitler wasn't Jewish at all. At least there isn't any remotely convincing evidence to suggest it anyway. Most leading leading Hitler biographers, including Ian Kershaw and Sir Alan Bullock, agree that Hitler's grandfather was in fact an ethnic Austrian smallholder named Johann Nepomuk Hiedler. Also, at the time and place of his alleged affair with a Jewish maid, Jews were not allowed in Upper Styria according to the laws of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. These facts together make it highly unlikely that Hitler had any immediate Jewish ancestors.
post #9 of 71
They all had mistresses Hitler had Eva Braun, JFK had Judith Campbell and Jesus had Mary Magdalene.



Bunch of hotties right there.
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hitler did the same thing as anyone else would of done, protect his own country and such, care about his people, and wanted a better economic system for Germany. You have to remember they were destroyed in WW1 and the armistice treaty really did **** them. Not touching upon the atrocities.

Touching upon if he was a jew, that is a hard thing to prove, and can be looked at in many different ways. oh he wasn't blue eyes or blond hair, he had to be a jew my grandmother was Austrian and had linage to the royal family which was assassinated and then ww2 started.. but she wasn't a jew and escaped went into hiding for 2 years before leaving Europe.. SO how can you be so certain, you cant be.. that portion is lost to history.

I did a paper in college about hitler without his evil deeds, if i still have it ill post it.. but there are many ways you can look at these 3 people and not all aspects relate.

I just say at times, with every genius comes some insanity.

I dont see the coloration between JFK or christ at all btw.. but will read again later on.
post #11 of 71
Damn, I was gonna guess herpes...
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lol
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hitler did the same thing as anyone else would of done, protect his own country and such, care about his people, and wanted a better economic system for Germany. You have to remember they were destroyed in WW1 and the armistice treaty really did **** them. Not touching upon the atrocities.

Touching upon if he was a jew, that is a hard thing to prove, and can be looked at in many different ways. oh he wasn't blue eyes or blond hair, he had to be a jew my grandmother was Austrian and had linage to the royal family which was assassinated and then ww2 started.. but she wasn't a jew and escaped went into hiding for 2 years before leaving Europe.. SO how can you be so certain, you cant be.. that portion is lost to history.

I did a paper in college about hitler without his evil deeds, if i still have it ill post it.. but there are many ways you can look at these 3 people and not all aspects relate.

I just say at times, with every genius comes some insanity.

I dont see the coloration between JFK or christ at all btw.. but will read again later on.
Hi Mjoke. Are you any relation to the Zoltans? I have a friend whose great, great(?) aunt and uncle came here as young children from Austria. He showed me old news paper articles of pictures of them exiting the ocean liner from which they were smuggled escaping from Europe. My friend tells me that if they were captured they would've been killed.. everyone else in their family was. My friend is blond and unusually fair. I've often teased him about the fact that all he would need is pink eyes to be classified as an albino. No offense to any albinos out there. I think it's very cool.

About Hitler being a monster. He most definitely was a monster. I understand the economic conditions which felled Germany after WWI, and I also understand that the Jews were very adept at business & liked to do business amongst themselves. The way I see it, Hitler saw the Jews as an easy target and preyed upon them. He was a great orator & used his talents to convince his countrymen that the Jews were the reason for all their problems.

I was traumatized upon finding out about the atrocities which Hitler not only allowed to happen but ordered his favorite SS side-kick to do.

I remember the day that I found out. I remember the nun casually trying to convince me that what she was telling me was indeed a part of history. I remember her repeating herself in a calm and caring manner.. probably aware that it was all just a little too much for me.

I have always been a voracious reader. I'm most likely able to give you the name of any of the leading characters of most of the classics, can't most people?

But for the life of me, I cannot remember any of the names of the people from The Diary of Anne Frank. I must have read that book at least 3 times in school. I know the characters, but I can't remember their names. I know the boy who was heartbroken by the loss of his cat, but I can't remember his name. I can't even remember the cat's name. And that is very odd for me. I've named my pets after heroic characters or authors.

I think the reason my memory fails is because the subject of the Nazis and the effect they had on the millions of innocent Jewish people who suffered under their atrocious regime has always since the very beginning been just a little too horrific for me to deal with.

Hitler wasn't a fictional character. He was a real person, if you want to call him a person. I prefer monster. I think he was a monster, and I think that not only because of what he did, but of what he planned to do. He wasn't happy to stop with the innocent Jews. His agenda included everyone & anyone who didn't fit into his plan.

You mention that Hitler did the same thing that anyone else would have done to protect his country.. Not touching upon the atrocities.

I strongly beg to differ with you. And how can you discuss Hitler, without touching upon the atrocities? I can't. To me they are one and the same.
There is no valid reason.. no rationalization which could justify the pain that this monster inflicted on the innocent people who had to suffer under his "plan."

You mention that with every genius comes insanity. Don't they also say that there can be a fine line between the two? Well, I say that where Hitler is involved, there is a big bold line separating the two, and he was not in any way shape of form a genius. But I do think he had to be insane to do what he did. Just think about the mind behind his actions. He had to be insane.
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Hi Mjoke. Are you any relation to the Zoltans? I have a friend whose great, great(?) aunt and uncle came here as young children from Austria. He showed me old news paper articles of pictures of them exiting the ocean liner from which they were smuggled escaping from Europe. My friend tells me that if they were captured they would've been killed.. everyone else in their family was. My friend is blond and unusually fair. I've often teased him about the fact that all he would need is pink eyes to be classified as an albino. No offense to any albinos out there. I think it's very cool.

About Hitler being a monster. He most definitely was a monster. I understand the economic conditions which felled Germany after WWI, and I also understand that the Jews were very adept at business & liked to do business amongst themselves. The way I see it, Hitler saw the Jews as an easy target and preyed upon them. He was a great orator & used his talents to convince his countrymen that the Jews were the reason for all their problems.

I was traumatized upon finding out about the atrocities which Hitler not only allowed to happen but ordered his favorite SS side-kick to do.

I remember the day that I found out. I remember the nun casually trying to convince me that what she was telling me was indeed a part of history. I remember her repeating herself in a calm and caring manner.. probably aware that it was all just a little too much for me.

I have always been a voracious reader. I'm most likely able to give you the name of any of the leading characters of most of the classics, can't most people?

But for the life of me, I cannot remember any of the names of the people from The Diary of Anne Frank. I must have read that book at least 3 times in school. I know the characters, but I can't remember their names. I know the boy who was heartbroken by the loss of his cat, but I can't remember his name. I can't even remember the cat's name. And that is very odd for me. I've named my pets after heroic characters or authors.

It's taken me a while to figure out why, but I think it's because, the subject of the Nazis and the effect they had on the millions of innocent Jewish people who suffered under their atrocious regime has always since the very beginning been just a little too horrific for me to deal with.

Hitler wasn't a fictional character. He was a real person, if you want to call him a person. I prefer monster. I think he was a monster, and I think that not only because of what he did, but of what he planned to do. He wasn't happy to stop with the innocent Jews. His agenda included everyone & anyone who didn't fit into his plan.

You mention that you Hitler did the same thing that anyone else would have done to protect his country.. Not touching upon the atrocities.

I strongly beg to differ with you. And how can you discuss Hitler, without touching upon the atrocities? I can't. Too me they are one and the same.
There is no valid reason.. no rationalization which could justify the pain that this monster inflicted on the innocent people who had to suffer under his "plan."

You mention that with every genius comes insanity. Don't they also say that there can be a fine line between the two? Well, I say that where Hitler is involved, there is a big bold line separating the two, and he was not in any way shape of form a genius. But I do think he had to be insane to do what he did. Just think about the mind behind his actions. He had to be insane.
Hitler was insane, not to mention on amphetamines 24/7 and constantly pumped on enough steroids to give an elephant permanent wood...

Hitler's atrocities need not be discussed here, I think we all know what went on in Nazi Germany, there is no need to ruminate it. There is no rationalizing it, but the whole point is Christ, JFK and Hitler wanted the same thing albeit they went about it in completely different way is not the point. Christ's persecution began when he 'kicked the money lenders out of his father's house (temple)', JFK wanted to eliminate the national debt and eliminate the federal reserve (money lenders) and Hitler began his tirade with the money lenders who had a stranglehold on Germany and those money lenders just happened to be Jewish and the atrocites are no better or worse for the fact they were Jews, they were humans as far as I am concerned...

all three men opposed slavery though debt, which when you consider that today if you were to add up every nation's national debt and divide it by the world's population it means that everyone owes a debt in the tens of thousands from the day they are born and who do we owe this money to? The 5% or so that lent the money out in the first place (world bank, IMF, Fed, ect.). Will this debt ever be paid? Hell no, at the rate the interest accumulates it will never be paid and grows exponentially by the minute. So, what we have is a condition in that 95% of the world's population owes a debt to 5% of the world's population that will never be paid and that debt grows continuously. The families that control the money supply can trace their roots to the time of Christ and beyond. The problem is people are only now beginning to wake up to a condition that has been a plan in the making for over two thousand years and there is nothing anyone can do about it now but watch the debt grow...

something else these men had in common, they all failed miserably...
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Hitler was insane, not to mention on amphetamines 24/7 and constantly pumped on enough steroids\

.. the whole point is Christ, JFK and Hitler wanted the same thing albeit they went about it in completely different way is not the point. Christ's persecution began when he 'kicked the money lenders out of his father's house (temple)', JFK wanted to eliminate the national debt and eliminate the federal reserve (money lenders) and Hitler began his tirade with the money lenders who had a stranglehold on Germany and those money lenders just happened to be Jewish and the atrocites are no better or worse for the fact they were Jews, they were humans as far as I am concerned...

all three men opposed slavery though debt.. 95% of the world's population owes a debt to 5% of the world's population that will never be paid and that debt grows continuously. The families that control the money supply can trace their roots to the time of Christ and beyond. The problem is people are only now beginning to wake up to a condition that has been a plan in the making for over two thousand years and there is nothing anyone can do about it now but watch the debt grow...

something else these men had in common, they all failed miserably...
Well at least we agree that Hitler was indeed insane & Christ’s problems all began when he kicked the Money Changers out of The Temple.

Hitler failed to accomplish his horrific plan to populate the earth with his Arian race & destroy everyone who didn’t fit into his plan.

But Christ and JFK were success stories in the fact that they both had a positive effect on the world.

What families are you taking about, that you can trace them back to the time of Christ & beyond. What are you talking about?
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Well at least we agree that Hitler was indeed insane & Christ’s problems all began when he kicked the Money Changers out of The Temple.

Hitler failed to accomplish his horrific plan to populate the earth with his Arian race & destroy everyone who didn’t fit into his plan.

But Christ and JFK were success stories in the fact that they both had a positive effect on the world.

What families are you taking about, that you can trace them back to the time of Christ & beyond. What are you talking about?
no, I this thread is about the things these three had in common not the atrocites Hitler commited, you can start your own thread on that if you please...

Christ and JFK are NOT success stories, Christ did not accomplish what he wanted and was killed for it in the end and same goes for JFK, the money lenders are the ones who began Christ's persecution and JFK never got to eliminate the national debt or the Fed, last time I checked the Fed was still open for business...

I'm talking about the MONEY LENDERS... if you don't know who the families are behind the Fed, IMF, World Bank, ect. etc. I suggest you do some research... lets start with the Bildebergers, Rothschilds and Rockefellers...
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hitler did the same thing as anyone else would of done, protect his own country and such, care about his people, and wanted a better economic system for Germany. You have to remember they were destroyed in WW1 and the armistice treaty really did **** them. Not touching upon the atrocities.
He didn't really protect his country. Invading another country on the basis of creating living space for the Germans isn't about protection.

The German Economy was geared towards producing a self sufficient war machine. It wasn't a good economic model. At least not in the long term.
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Am I too late to guess what they all had in common? I'm gonna say...umm...they all parted their hair to the right!
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Christ and JFK are NOT success stories, Christ did not accomplish what he wanted and was killed for it in the end and same goes for JFK, the money lenders are the ones who began Christ's persecution and JFK never got to eliminate the national debt or the Fed, last time I checked the Fed was still open for business...

I'm talking about the MONEY LENDERS... if you don't know who the families are behind the Fed, IMF, World Bank, ect. etc. I suggest you do some research... lets start with the Bildebergers, Rothschilds and Rockefellers...
Theone, I do get it that you are very focused on the money lenders. But there are other ways to mark one's success in life. I believe that Christ & JFK are both examples of great success stories. Their names are known world wide. And just taking the U.S. for example, both are loved for who they were and for the ideals for which they stood. Also, I think it's safe to say that overall they were good men.
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Am I too late to guess what they all had in common? I'm gonna say...umm...they all parted their hair to the right!
I can't be completely sure, but I would bet that Christ wore his hair split down the middle, or not at all. Of course, it is just a guess.
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Theone, I do get it that you are very focused on the money lenders. But there are other ways to mark one's success in life. I believe that Christ & JFK are both examples of great success stories. Their names are known world wide. And just taking the U.S. for example, both are loved for who they were and for the ideals for which they stood. Also, I think it's safe to say that overall they were good men.

I can't be completely sure, but I would bet that Christ wore his hair split down the middle, or not at all. Of course, it is just a guess.
Janie... if you are going to post in this thread, on topic please...

this thread is not about what they did not have in common, read the title...
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