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WASHINGTON - In a victory for President Barack Obama, the Democratic-controlled House narrowly passed landmark health care legislation to expand coverage to tens of millions who lack it and place tough new restrictions on the insurance industry.

The final vote was 220-215. Only one Republican — Rep. Joseph Cao of Louisiana — voted for the measure; 39 Democrats voted against it.

Obama praised the House in a statement and said he is "absolutely confident" that the Senate will pass its version of the legislation. "I look forward to signing it into law by the end of the year," he said.





TALK ABOUT CHECKS AND BALANCES THE REPUBLICANS HAD NO WAY OF WINNING ONLY 1 REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR IT. EVEN WITH 39 DEMONCRATS VOTING AGAINST IT STILL OFF BY 5 VOTES........... LOL THIS IS JUST UNFAIR
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$1.2 TRILLION for an expense that ACTUALLY costs $2.5 Trillion and they
said it won't RAISE taxes? It's unfair when the imbedded laws that are
aimed at everybody's heads can send you to jail and fine you thousands
by Socialist "servants" that just turned the tables on you.

Nowhere in this bill that promises "AFFORDABLE" healthcare
does it make for provisions to accomplish it. Now that the
House has voted and passed it on, they are finished with
dealing with it and are NOT responsible for making it Affordable.

ASSHATS.




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Originally Posted by Techunter View Post
$1.2 TRILLION for an expense that ACTUALLY costs $2.5 Trillion and they
said it won't RAISE taxes? It's unfair when the imbedded laws that are
aimed at everybody's heads can send you to jail and fine you thousands
by Socialist "servants" that just turned the tables on you.

Nowhere in this bill that promises "AFFORDABLE" healthcare
does it make for provisions to accomplish it. Now that the
House has voted and passed it on, they are finished with
dealing with it and are NOT responsible for making it Affordable.

ASSHATS..


The House bill actually increases costs across the board for everyone except those that will recieve it for next to nothing(at taxpayer expense). An analysis of the minimum coverage requirements and the elimination of the co-pay system will increase the average premium of the 4 member family by just under $1.700.00 per year. That estimate is based on the cost schedule of the current Medicare system (2007 numbers).




Affordable my azz.




Good Luck





P.S. Perhaps investing in the companies that build and manage prisons will be the next big thing in investing. Under Pelosicare a lot of people will be going to prison.
post #5 of 58
One step closer to sorely needed health care reform.

I am glad to see the insurance industry and the republicans against this... a sign that it may actually help consumers rather than maintaining the status quo and continuing to line the pockets of insurance executives.
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Originally Posted by enickma View Post
One step closer to sorely needed health care reform.
the people are going to be sorely regretting this

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Originally Posted by enickma View Post
I am glad to see the insurance industry and the republicans against this..
is that the only reason why you think THIS healthcare bill should be passed?
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oh grow a set of balls and overthrow that joke of a government already...

oh yeah, I forgot, the government castrated the people a long time ago and if you tried to overthrow that fraudulent government you would be labeled a terrorist... nice...

seriously, besides the ultra-rich lobby, who in the United States is happy with ANYTHING their government has done besides going to war? The American government's best talent is to endear its people by identifying foreign enemies to give them a reason to fight and cheer for their country and 'freedom' all the while using war as a smoke screen to hide the real enemy which is domestic... the American taxpayer's true enemy is in Washington, wake the f*** up already...
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Originally Posted by vlandsponger View Post
is that the only reason why you think THIS healthcare bill should be passed?
Of course not... it's just a good sign.
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Originally Posted by vlandsponger View Post
the people are going to be sorely regretting this


is that the only reason why you think THIS healthcare bill should be passed?
Easy vland enikma will ban your ass.
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Originally Posted by enickma View Post
One step closer to sorely needed health care reform.

I am glad to see the insurance industry and the
republicans against this... a sign that it may actually
help consumers rather than maintaining the status
quo and continuing to line the pockets of insurance
executives.
Well, Let little nickie pay for it!

Oh, that's right, he will anyway.

Based on Past History,
Gov't HC is the biggest abuser of
DENIED CLAIMS!
Check the stats on MEDICARE!
Consumers are screwed.

That means YOU, Enickma.
Deny that all you want.
Your inability to understand
the mechanics of what will
happen will have all of us
Rolling On The Floor - support
of this SH!T will have the karmic
affect of paying you back.


I have nothing but sympathy for the rest
of you people that are young and do realize
you will spend the next 40 years getting
it up the rear to pay for the GREEDY that
think this is a free ride or it will be a great
change in their standard of living.

Nick, Et Al, you all did it to yourselves.



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Originally Posted by enickma View Post
One step closer to sorely needed health care reform.

I am glad to see the insurance industry and the republicans against this... a sign that it may actually help consumers rather than maintaining the status quo and continuing to line the pockets of insurance executives.
Please explain your reasoning supporting this! How will it be better?
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Originally Posted by enickma View Post
One step closer to sorely needed health care reform.

I am glad to see the insurance industry and the republicans against this... a sign that it may actually help consumers rather than maintaining the status quo and continuing to line the pockets of insurance executives.
Having read all of the Senate bill and most of the House bill, I find no help for the general population in affordability or access to healthcare. Yes, there is some good for a limited number , primarily those that already qualify for Medicaid but do not use it for whatever reason.

The end result of both bills, the House bill by far the most aggregious, is a lowered standard of care for everyone and a far higher cost for less care for those that already have access.

Have you found something in either piece of legislation that I have missed that would negate the downside?



Good Luck
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Having read all of the Senate bill and most of the House bill, I find no help for the general population in affordability or access to healthcare. Yes, there is some good for a limited number , primarily those that already qualify for Medicaid but do not use it for whatever reason.

The end result of both bills, the House bill by far the most aggregious, is a lowered standard of care for everyone and a far higher cost for less care for those that already have access.

Have you found something in either piece of legislation that I have missed that would negate the downside?



Good Luck
I agree 100%.. I only see it as downgrading the quality- curious to hear NICK's reasoning on the matter....
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If it passes in the Senate, the people will revolt.
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Originally Posted by The Daleks View Post
If it passes in the Senate, the people will revolt.

you wish the people will revolt... any revolt will be crushed with the Patriot Act... anyone speaking out against the Patriot Act will be defined as a terrorist... this healthcare thingy is just another step towards the implementation of the New World Order... good luck...
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you wish the people will revolt... any revolt will be crushed with the Patriot Act... anyone speaking out against the Patriot Act will be defined as a terrorist... this healthcare thingy is just another step towards the implementation of the New World Order... good luck...
Maybe your starting to come around and get the real picture. I agree with you, thought that would never happen. One thing we got going for us is that the military would never attack us citizens. That is why they so desperately want the UN forces to be able to operate within the states. When I see blue uniformed UN troops in my county I will flip my shit. They have been in my state doing joint exercises (disaster relief) but it's my understanding our troops here were highly pissed at the thought none less the action.
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Maybe your starting to come around and get the real picture. I agree with you, thought that would never happen. One thing we got going for us is that the military would never attack us citizens. That is why they so desperately want the UN forces to be able to operate within the states. When I see blue uniformed UN troops in my county I will flip my shit. They have been in my state doing joint exercises (disaster relief) but it's my understanding our troops here were highly pissed at the thought none less the action.
Yup. The day I see our nation's people being physically threatened by our own government or any outside force could very well be the day I die, because I for one would fight back.
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Originally Posted by NoJobRob View Post
Yup. The day I see our nation's people being physically threatened by our own government or any outside force could very well be the day I die, because I for one would fight back.
You would be sniped from a mile away!!!! We are being threatened daily and little if nothing can be done to stop it.... People wanted change, they got it....
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You would be sniped from a mile away!!!!
Oh well. At least I wouldn't go down like a bitch. Plus a head shot is a pretty easy way to go. You wouldn't even know it happened.
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If no job rob knows it's coming he'll be a lot harder to hit. If the guvment tries some shit I imagine it'll be no job rob doing the sniping.
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