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post #101 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:01am
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It's interesting that you bring up mental illness.

I know of someone who after learning about schizophrenia in school, went to a psychiatrist and discussed the fact that they and their family members often had out of body experiences.

The psychiatrist deemed the person normal and referred the person to a para-psychologist, who told the person that the fact that they and their family members had out of body experiences was not all that uncommon and the ability usually runs in families.
If you have friends who can astral-project...you should get them to shoot over and spy on Atwell so you can get the real scoop on what's going on over there. Let me guess "It doesn't work that way."
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post #102 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:02am
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Did she step off the bus out into the city streets?
Was she just a small town girl with her whole life packed
In a suitcase by her feet?

But somehow the lights didn't
shine as bright as they did
On her mama's TV screen?

And did the work seemed harder?
The days seemed longer
Than she ever thought they'd be?

Well, you know you got to stick to your guns
When it all comes down
Cause sometimes you can't choose
It's like heads they win
Tails you're gonna lose

Win big--Mama's fallen angel
Lose big--livin' out of lies
Wants it all--Mama's fallen angel
Lose it all, rollin' the dice of her life...
Okay Bret Michaels. I guess I'll be CC DeVille.
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post #103 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:03am
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If you have friends who can astral-project...you should get them to shoot over and spy on Atwell so you can get the real scoop on what's going on over there. Let me guess "It doesn't work that way."
No, you're thinking of anal-projecting...
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post #104 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:03am
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post #105 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:04am
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Stoopid embedding disabled...that's a great song though.
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post #106 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:05am
^^^couldn't embed it, but still...
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post #107 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:06am
I saw them, Cinderella, and Tesla a few years back and my then GF caught Ricky Rocket's drum stick. I should have stolen it after we broke up, to go along with my collection. Damnit!
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post #108 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:06am
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No, you're thinking of anal-projecting...
Your right I miss spelled shoot wrong vowel and one to many
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post #109 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:08am
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my then GF caught Ricky Rocket's drum stick.
Nice euphemism
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post #110 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:10am
Yeah I know, right? Umm... Jaz? Can I tell you something?
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post #111 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by NoJobRob View Post
This is a pointless argument because neither side will ever be able to prove to the other that they are wrong. Simple fact: NO ONE knows what happens when we die, and stay dead. So, who cares what someone else thinks? Do you really care that much to argue over it? FFS. Get over it and move on. We'll all find out eventually anyway...
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I think you are all on drugs..
Hey NoJobRob, I didn’t start the thread, but I know quite a bit about the subject and I don’t have a problem discussing it. I know people who would never even think of engaging people regarding it. And perhaps that’s why a lot of people are not aware of the 10 to 14% of the population who have had or regularly have out of body experiences; which is also known as astral projection.

It’s attitudes like your post above, Theone, that may hold people back from sharing their out of body experiences with others.

The argument is not pointless. And they have scientifically proven that people do have out of body experiences.

You may not know what happens when you die, but ask anyone who has left their body if they have any idea about it.
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post #112 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:33am
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The argument is not pointless. And they have scientifically proven that people do have out of body experiences.
I think you mean they have pseudo-scientifically quasi-documented people having OBE's...

It's like saying they "scientifically proven" that there are ghosts in a haunted mansion.
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post #113 of 175
11/11/09 at 6:39am
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Hey NoJobRob, I didn’t start the thread, but I know quite a bit about the subject and I don’t have a problem discussing it. I know people who would never even think of engaging people regarding it. And perhaps that’s why a lot of people are not aware of the 10 to 14% of the population who have had or regularly have out of body experiences; which is also known as astral projection.

It’s attitudes like your post above, Theone, that may hold people back from sharing their out of body experiences with others.

The argument is not pointless. And they have scientifically proven that people do have out of body experiences.

You may not know what happens when you die, but ask anyone who has left their body if they have any idea about it.
My statement was neutral. I took no sides. I in no way stated my personal beliefs in this matter, so get off my back. Jesus...
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post #114 of 175
11/11/09 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by mmm...Jaz View Post
I think you mean they have pseudo-scientifically quasi-documented people having OBE's...

It's like saying they "scientifically proven" that there are ghosts in a haunted mansion.
Don't they have photo software that photographs auras, or the energy which we emit? I would think that they do. And that leads me to believe that the powers that be, have already proven astral projection. Now whether or not they want to share that information with the 86 to 90% of the population of that is totally unaware that they leave their body, is a different story.
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post #115 of 175
11/11/09 at 7:29am
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Hey NoJobRob, I didn’t start the thread, but I know quite a bit about the subject and I don’t have a problem discussing it. I know people who would never even think of engaging people regarding it. And perhaps that’s why a lot of people are not aware of the 10 to 14% of the population who have had or regularly have out of body experiences; which is also known as astral projection.

It’s attitudes like your post above, Theone, that may hold people back from sharing their out of body experiences with others.

The argument is not pointless. And they have scientifically proven that people do have out of body experiences.

You may not know what happens when you die, but ask anyone who has left their body if they have any idea about it.
out of body experiences are scientifically proven? lmfao... the only thing that there is scientific proof of is that hallucinations are produced by one of two things, drugs and/or mental illness...
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post #116 of 175
11/11/09 at 7:29am
Well NoJobRob is right about one thing, eventually, we will all find out.
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post #117 of 175
11/11/09 at 7:31am
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if someone is 'well grounded' and otherwise healthy and they claim they are having out of body experiences then it is a symptom of more than one mental health issue... we are not talking about fighter pilots or deep sea divers who are deprived of oxygen...
No. As I said, there are a wide range of circumstances that can produce such phenomena. For example, these experiences are fairly common in hospitals under the influence of anesthesia, and sleep deprivation can also produce similar effects.

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I think you mean they have pseudo-scientifically quasi-documented people having OBE's...

It's like saying they "scientifically proven" that there are ghosts in a haunted mansion.
You might be surprised, actually -- they've been documented as real neural events. Of course, there has never been any evidence to suggest that people's minds actually leave their bodies, or any other silly New Age mumbo jumbo; rather, we have simply exposed a peculiarity of the human brain.



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post #118 of 175
11/11/09 at 7:31am
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out of body experiences are scientifically proven? lmfao... the only thing that there is scientific proof of is that hallucinations are produced by one of two things, drugs and/or mental illness...

an out of body experience sounds like a hallucination to me...

wonder what Jimmi Hendrix meant when he asked 'are you experienced?'

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post #119 of 175
11/11/09 at 7:34am
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out of body experiences are scientifically proven? lmfao... the only thing that there is scientific proof of is that hallucinations are produced by one of two things, drugs and/or mental illness...
Theone, have you ever felt suddenly paralyzed while preparing to go to sleep? Has that ever happened to you?
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post #120 of 175
11/11/09 at 7:39am
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Theone, have you ever felt suddenly paralyzed while preparing to go to sleep? Has that ever happened to you?
nope, can't say I have...
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