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If you own or POSESS a firearm, be sure to read this

Do you possess a firearm?

Read this.

Now 'all Guns' must be listed on your next (2010) tax return! As if we didn’t have enough to get upset about! If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered! Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun. | This bill was introduced on Feb.. 24, 2009, by the Omama staff. BUT . . this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the new law becomes effective ! This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act o f 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all. Trust Obama ? ..... you must be kidding ! | The full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage,U.S. Senate You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill nu mber, SB-2099. | You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.| | Obama's Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply. It has begun . . . Whatever Obama's secret Master Plan is....this is just the 'tip of the iceburg!' Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Ac t of 2009.| Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying t o fly it under the radar as a 'minor' IRS revision, and, as usuual, the 'political' lawmakers did not read this bill befre signing and approving it ! To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information. Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless: -It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver's License -You supply your Social Security # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing -Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. -They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison. If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many opt ions to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pas s this along.| This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming o f our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it. This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.. : Please.. copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control. We all should have the right to choose.


http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text
post #2 of 719
wait i dont have any but have wanted to get a few that i cant get in California
now your telling me i have to list them? never ever will i do that, ever.
nice info however

that is sick how they are passing things, instead of informing the public prior, which was the entire point.
post #3 of 719
???

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/06/pri...owned-gun-tax/

This is from FACTCHECK....
Owned by the Annenberg Project
WHICH IS A LARGE CONTRIBUTOR
TO OBAMA. Go figure.

Don't know if I can trust them or
this info.


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Yeah I just did some more checking on this and "apparently" it is an exaggerated version of an old bill that was not passed back in 2000.

It was proposed back on Feb 24th, 2000 by Democratic Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island

By the way, I just officially purchased my first gun last Saturday. A beautiful little Springfield XD 40 Sub-Compact. It will go nicely with my Concealed Carry License that I got back in May (after waiting six months to get)

I don't know the rules (if there are any) of posting pics on here so here is a link of a random pic I found on internet of a Springfield XD 40 Sub Compact
post #5 of 719
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Originally Posted by Techunter View Post
???

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/06/pri...owned-gun-tax/

This is from FACTCHECK....
Owned by the Annenberg Project
WHICH IS A LARGE CONTRIBUTOR
TO OBAMA. Go figure.

Don't know if I can trust them or
this info.


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I hope your correct but.......

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...:h45ih.txt.pdf
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111TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION H. R. 45
To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers
of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms,
and for other purposes.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
JANUARY 6, 2009
Mr. RUSH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee
on the Judiciary
A BILL
To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of
sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa- 1
tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, 2
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS. 3
(a) SHORT TITLE.—This Act may be cited as ‘‘Blair 4
Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 5
2009’’. 6
(b) TABLE OF CONTENTS.—The table of contents for 7
this Act is as follows: 8
Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.
Sec. 2. Findings and purposes.
VerDate Nov 24 2008 04:57 Jan 08, 2009 Jkt 079200 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6211 E:\BILLS\H45.IH H45 wwoods2 on PRODPC68 with BILLS
post #7 of 719
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Originally Posted by QuestSolver View Post
I searched the document for
"Revenue"
"tax"
"1040"
and found nothing. Unless they have committed a
Neologistic nonsense of some sort, it is hidden well.


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post #8 of 719
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Techunter View Post
I searched the document for
"Revenue"
"tax"
"1040"
and found nothing. Unless they have committed a
Neologistic nonsense of some sort, it is hidden well.


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who the hell knows anymore.....no one can trust our government to do anything for the people other then taxing.
post #9 of 719
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I can't confirm all this info but do find factual parts,I will change the thread title.
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This is old news, and while the bill is real, it doesn't seem to have any real chance at passing
post #11 of 719
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Originally Posted by AGreenEyedDevil View Post
This is old news, and while the bill is real, it doesn't seem to have any real chance at passing


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Originally Posted by Techunter View Post


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It doesn't even have a single Co Sponsor. It has been around since January and no one is backing that prick from IL.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45
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I would say its better not to list any guns you own...let it be a 'surprise' to the feds when they kick down your door thinking you're an easy mark to take away for 're-education'...

"Holy sh!t...he's got guns....he's shooting back..this wasn't on his tax form...no fair not disclosing your arsenal you LIAR!!!!!"

-w
post #14 of 719
Sig Sauer P-220 Super Match...copy of my most accurate, reliable .45...And the conversion that allows hours of cheap, quiet practice
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Originally Posted by wolf825 View Post
I would say its better not to list any guns you own...let it be a 'surprise' to the feds when they kick down your door thinking you're an easy mark to take away for 're-education'...

"Holy sh!t...he's got guns....he's shooting back..this wasn't on his tax form...no fair not disclosing your arsenal you LIAR!!!!!"

-w
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"I likes the blood...I want the blood..."


-w
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Don't drink the BaracKool~Aid
post #18 of 719
LOL!!! its his honor shirt, i want the blood, i want the blood..
I shot off all his fingers


Quote:
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"I likes the blood...I want the blood..."


-w
post #19 of 719
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OMG!!! LOL!!
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and to think that these people actually vote
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