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post #41 of 86
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Originally Posted by HSMPICK View Post
Hey you asshole
Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for years and they havent done anything...
The only country to ever use nukes is america...
i doubt that. and if they did the only way they could transport it would be by camel... you fking idiot.
post #42 of 86
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Originally Posted by HSMPICK View Post
Hey you asshole
Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for years and they havent done anything...
The only country to ever use nukes is america...
and guess where we will drop our next one?....................duck idiot!!!!!
post #43 of 86
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and guess where we will drop our next one?....................duck idiot!!!!!
Never going to happen everr
post #44 of 86
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Originally Posted by HSMPICK View Post
Hey you asshole
Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for years and they havent done anything...
The only country to ever use nukes is america...
is they had the technology and ICBM's we would have already been in WW3 by now.they may have "some" nukes but they damn sure don't have the ability to strategically target us.The U.S. has more nukes on one single submarine then most others have in their country.If another country in the mideast wants to attack us they will have to do it like they have always done,in a cowardly and sneaky way.
post #45 of 86
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518611,00.html

Glossy Internet Magazine Targets Americans for Jihad Training

It's been likened to Al Qaeda's "Vanity Fair," a new English-language Internet magazine called "Jihad Recollections" that focuses on the terrorist group, its founder, Usama Bin Laden, and how to commit jihad. It also predicts the demise of the United States.

“This is designed for Americans,” says noted terrorism expert Steven Emerson, founder of the Investigative Project on Terrorism in Washington, D.C., and author of the book "American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us."

“It’s not for Brits, not for Germans, not for jihadists in the Middle East. It’s designed for Americans and it’s designed to get them to convert to Islam or to carry out jihad acts of terror,” he said.

“What started off as some angry kids in their basement has transformed over the past several years into a robust Al Qaeda propaganda outlet right here in our backyard,” says Jarret Brachman, an Al Qaeda specialist and author of the new book, “Global Jihadism.”

Brachman says “it raises the bar for pro-Al Qaeda propaganda in English. Its presentation is flashier than any English language Al Qaeda propaganda that we’ve seen to date.” He also says “the publication shows how deeply embedded in the global Al Qaeda movement its editors are.”

It is not clear what connection, if any, the magazine has to Al Qaeda or its followers. It is published by the “Al Fursan Media Foundation,” but FOX News could not find such an organization or a way to contact them for comment.

Yet “Jihad Recollections” certainly highlights the terrorist group and the goals of Islamic jihad in a sophisticated and graphically slick presentation similar to any high quality Web site.

The magazine includes the speeches and writings of Bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Articles range from “Four Practical Steps to Expand the Global Jihad,” to “The Science Behind Night Vision Technology” and “Principles of Guerrilla Warfare.”

“The magazine is quite startling,” said Emerson. It is “a veritable manual on how to carry out terrorism. It’s quite shocking, and the question is whether it violates the law or not.”

The first issue says of the 9/11 attacks, that “the strategy was genius.” It calls America “one of the most atrocious and egotistical regimes to date,” and it accuses the United States of spreading corruption in Islamic countries through its embassies. “How can we expect from America any good?” it asks. “We only expect from it every evil and corruption.”

“Jihad Recollections” appears to prepare followers to engage in jihad. One section teaches aspiring jihadists how to stay in shape by doing exercise without weights. Articles with photographs of men dressed in white robes with their faces covered encourage them to exercise at home and stay away from American gyms because “they are full of music, semi-naked women, free mixing.” It warns of the dangers of “showing off” during a workout and even observes that protein shakes are too expensive and not worth the money.

For those who thought the election of Barack Obama as president would assuage the militant world, the magazine makes it quite clear that is not the case.

“To the Muslims who voted for Obama and were optimistic that he would make a positive change ... nothing will change except things can only get worse,” the magazine proclaims. “Only Allah knows how much worse it will get.”

The magazine criticizes the Obama economic stimulus plan, calling it “flawed,” and ridicules the president as “Mr. Yes We Can,” whose policies will “continue to loot all the hardworking Americans wealth.”

It even includes the views of some prominent critics of the president’s polices, such as former New York Lt. Gov. Betsy McCaughey, now an adjunct fellow at the Hudson Institute, and veteran Tennessee Rep. Zach Wamp, the ranking Republican on the House Military Construction and Veterans Affairs Subcommittee. Such references clearly indicate an awareness of American political discourse similar to the nation’s political policy magazines.

In fact, “Jihad Recollections” proclaims: “It is the first of its kind as it is geared towards the English speaking Muslims who are interested in gaining heights in their religious, political, economical, social, technological, strategic, historical, biographical and health awareness.”

The writing may be a bit flamboyant, and while it boasts that “The U.S. grows weaker every day,” there is no explicit call for violence against the country or against Americans. Emerson thinks the publication is “pushing the envelope of the First Amendment” by reporting on jihad issues, and he says it indicates that the Internet is being used as “one of the major sources for radicalization.”

“Thousands of people have accessed these pro-Al Qaeda websites,” notes Brachman. He says “this new journal is receiving more and more praise from within the English-language jihadist movement. The fact is that their movement is growing — their popularity is growing.”

More than 5,000 people have viewed “Jihad Recollections” and 11 people list it as one of their “favorites.” Who are its readers? And do they adhere to the jihad philosophy?

Whoever is behind “Jihad Recollections” has a strange mix of opinion with one focus: seemingly to spread the message of Islamic jihad at the expense of Americans. That such a publication is accessible at all speaks to the freedoms we enjoy in our country while, experts say, also serving as a warning of the danger that Islamic militants and radicals pose to our nation.

FOX News' Maryam Sepehri contributed to this report.
post #46 of 86
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Originally Posted by QuestSolver View Post
If another country in the mideast wants to attack us they will have to do it like they have always done,in a cowardly and sneaky way.
How is that cowardly? That's way is the smart way. Fighting fire with a smaller fire directly doesn't work.
post #47 of 86
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Originally Posted by bazooka85 View Post
How is that cowardly? That's way is the smart way. Fighting fire with a smaller fire directly doesn't work.
well its a shame the U.S. government doesn't have the balls to remove any and all threats with just a few strategically placed offensive attacks and end this headache once and for all,they would certainly do it to us if they could. There is simply no reason for any soldier to even set foot in that sand hell.....it should all be glass by now anyway.

heres a related item on nukes....

experts believe, based on both simulated test results and actual historical events, that a few – or even one – nuclear warheads detonated above the atmosphere of the U.S. could knock out 70% or more of our electrical power grid. A government commission, the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack (http://empcommission.org), issued a report one year ago that stated:
“…the cascading effects from even one or two relatively small weapons exploded in optimum location in space at present would almost certainly shut down an entire interconnected electrical power system, perhaps affecting as much as 70% or possibly more of the United States, all in an instant…” (p. 19).
The loss of 70% of our power grid for even a few months would devastate our country. Everything from food production and distribution to communications and transportation would be crippled. Imagine the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina spread throughout most of the country — and lasting for months, not days or weeks.

With all the turmoil in Pakistan due to the growth and increasing aggressiveness of the Taliban, the prospect that some of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons could fall into the hands of the Taliban – and even al Qaeda – is now frighteningly real. Meanwhile, Iran and North Korea are working together to develop missile launch technology and Iran continues to work towards acquiring nuclear weapons.

What this means is that the day is not too far off when our worst enemies will have both nuclear weapons and missile launching capabilities to launch an EMP attack against us. Unlike during the Cold War with the Soviet Union, many of these enemies will not be deterred by the threat of “mutually assured destruction.”

This is a nightmare scenario that simply can’t be allowed to happen. So what can be done?
America must accelerate and expand our first line of defense, our missile defense program. You might not know it from watching the news, but we have the proven technology to knock down missiles launched at us. What we need to do is add to this defense arsenal and continue to improve its effectiveness, to provide the sufficient deterrence to prevent a nuclear weapon from ever being exploded above our country.
This is why the word coming from the Obama administration that funding for missile defense is going to be cut is precisely the wrong action to take. This is why the Obama administration’s signals that it may reverse course on setting up a missile defense perimeter in Europe is precisely the wrong action to take.

Therefore, part of our plan of action this year will be to fight such cuts, expand missile protection of the U.S., and to push for the deployment of a missile defense perimeter in Europe. There are different tactics we can pursue to do this, a few of which I will spell out in an email tomorrow.
In addition, as the Commission states in its report (p. 55), there are actions American industry and government can take to better protect essential parts of our power grid in order to limit the damage from a successful EMP attack against us. This would be our second line of defense. The third line of defense would be ensuring the availability of readily applied replacement parts in the event that the first two lines of defense are penetrated.
By expanding our missile defense and protecting the essential parts of our power grid we can create three lines of defense that will make it extremely difficult for our enemies to wreak the kind of havoc that would occur if 70% or more of our power grid were knocked out for months.

So what are the practical steps we as an organization can take right now?
First, we are joining forces with a coalition called EMPACT, the international EMP Awareness Coordination Task Force. This task force is a rapidly growing coalition of organizations that understand the EMP threat and are committed to taking action to defend us against it.
EMPACT has scheduled a national conference on this issue for September 9th and 10th, to be held in Niagara, NY (just outside of Buffalo). The objective of the conference will be to both educate on the threat AND provide strategies and action items to combat the threat. We are going to be involved in this conference and will give you more details as they are available.
Second, if you have ever thought about starting a local ACT! for America chapter, now is the time to do so. We need to make progress THIS YEAR on this EMP threat. Increasing the size and thus potential impact of our chapter network is a must if we are to do this.
You may recall the defense poster from years ago that exclaimed “Uncle Sam needs you!” Well, “Uncle Sam” needs you to join our rapidly growing chapter leader network, which now consists of 285 chapters! Simply click here to sign up.
post #48 of 86
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Third, we need to continue growing our grassroots membership. Here’s how you can help. Forward the emails from the past week on the EMP threat to people you know, and add your own message urging them to sign up for our emails by logging on to www.actforamerica.org. The more members we have, the more effective our grassroots efforts will be to persuade members of Congress to act to combat the EMP threat.
Tomorrow and Friday I will share with you more details on specific action items we will be pushing for this year — and how you can help make these a reality.

This year and next year there are different public policy and other issues that we will be working on. Of course, we would like to win on every one of them, but reality dictates we’ll win some and not others.

However, this is one of those issues we can’t afford to lose. In the next 18 months America must create the kind of defenses necessary to prevent a successful EMP attack from being launched against us. A large, organized, “bottom-up” grassroots ACT! for America effort is essential to achieving this.

Because, while any terrorist attack would be horrific, a successful EMP attack would be apocalyptic.

Always devoted,



Brigitte Gabriel
post #49 of 86
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Why do you like leaving links out on every post?

http://actdcmetro.wordpress.com/
http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/bl...mp-threat-part
post #50 of 86
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Originally Posted by bazooka85 View Post

Ok thank you for those additions
post #51 of 86
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Originally Posted by QuestSolver View Post
is they had the technology and ICBM's we would have already been in WW3 by now.they may have "some" nukes but they damn sure don't have the ability to strategically target us.The U.S. has more nukes on one single submarine then most others have in their country.If another country in the mideast wants to attack us they will have to do it like they have always done,in a cowardly and sneaky way.
No, what Pakistan would do is level Israel and stop caring about us. WE are not who they hate, it is ISRAEL who they hate. WE support ISRAEL in almost EVERYTHING THEY DO. If they were to knock Israel off the face of the earth, until we blatantly attack them for doing so, they won't care about us.
post #52 of 86
Actually, Pakistani's like American's quite a bit. I happen to know many people from Pakistan. Although, admittedly, I still don't know them well enough to be able to tell the difference between someone from Pakistan and someone from India, they sound and look alike to me.

Anyhow, they are very political also. They tend to hate Democrat administrations and love Republican administrations, mostly for the weapons. Ever since Reagan we've sold them a lot of fighters and such, but Clinton came along and broke a lot of the deals and contracts we had with them, which Bush brought back. So they really are worried about an Obama administration and support against India.

Anyone who thinks Pakistans concern is Israel is very ignorant of the world and history.

Pakistans concern is India. Sure, people who live in Pakistan may or may not like Israel or Jews in particular, but unlike Iran, Jordan, Egypt, etc, Pakistan is more concerned with India than Israel.

So to be more accurate, Pakistan hates India and focuses its attention on India, not Israel.

Perhaps in the future, 756744, if you want to comment you might remove your foot from your mouth first and get a clue.
post #53 of 86
No matter how many times I come across information like that in the video in the OP, it boggles my mind to think that people actually buy into that type of fear-mongering propaganda. The "logic" in that video is flawed in so many ways that it's nothing short of hilarious. I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert. The fact that it's believable to some, though, I find to be no laughing matter.
post #54 of 86
wow so sad.. want a example of this already look at London.. it might just not be one kind of person, but they are similar and the concept is not unsound...

English won wars and the right to preserve their race and culture... YET they have lost to the slow encroaching movement of immigration. There was a reason countries were isolated

I didnt know they can use old churches as new temples.. though they would find it unclean or unpure in some sense.. also i find it insulting and view this more as a religious crusade just adapted to modern times.

ive been saying for years we need to be isolationists..close the borders.... good thing for the latino, dam horny bastards keep us in the running..

Rishodi...Most of us will be dead by then.. so in leiu of that.. i will just say i told u so now.. and your shit is purple.

Go ahead and live in denial and not consider it.. like so many others..
This is a war.. just not with guns and bombs.
post #55 of 86
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Originally Posted by Rishodi View Post
No matter how many times I come across information like that in the video in the OP, it boggles my mind to think that people actually buy into that type of fear-mongering propaganda. The "logic" in that video is flawed in so many ways that it's nothing short of hilarious. I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert. The fact that it's believable to some, though, I find to be no laughing matter.
What is truly not a laughing matter is the response
to the unanswered question:

"Please describe how Islam is to be preceived as
a religion of peace when it was founded by a mass
murderer with a taste for settling scores?

_____________________________________
Before you consider picking up the scimitar of VITRIOL
and charging into a diatribe that illustrates MY POINT,
here is the current state of arguments that have appeared
here over the last year or two.
  1. Nonsense about the vile passages in the Bible. These are the parts that are told as history and are to be ignored because it is not part of the lessons from Christ. It surprises me how many "Chrstians" don't realize this, too. All others blatantly pretent to ignore it to use as an arguing point.
  2. Interpretations of the Bible by Muslims complete with greivous errors.
  3. Accusations of contextual elements for Interpretations of the Koran by Non-Muslims including the passages from the hadith as backup.
  4. Personal attacks turned around as an attack on Islam - more of the same.
That is the tough question (above) - I have grown
use to the side-stepping, so, jargogle at will.





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post #56 of 86
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Originally Posted by Techunter View Post
What is truly not a laughing matter is the response
to the unanswered question:

"Please describe how Islam is to be preceived as
a religion of peace when it was founded by a mass
murderer with a taste for settling scores?
Though I'm sure I could argue with you on this point, it's a red herring to the matter at hand. Don't think that I wouldn't criticize Islam, though; I see little merit in any religion. The difference is that I will not make sweeping generalizations nor will I demonize individuals based upon their beliefs and persuasions, no matter how inane.
post #57 of 86
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Originally Posted by Rishodi View Post
Though I'm sure I could argue with you on this point, it's a red herring to the matter at hand. Don't think that I wouldn't criticize Islam, though; I see little merit in any religion. The difference is that I will not make sweeping generalizations nor will I demonize individuals based upon their beliefs and persuasions, no matter how inane.
So, Jim Jones murders 900 people in the name of his "religion"
and it's none of your business? Some day it will be personal
for you. Ask the families of 2,734 people in the World Trade
Center - they weren't killed by Girl Scouts.



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post #58 of 86
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So, Jim Jones murders 900 people in the name of his "religion"
and it's none of your business? Some day it will be personal
for you. Ask the families of 2,734 people in the World Trade
Center - they weren't killed by Girl Scouts.



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Ahh...but if it WAS the Girl Scouts who attacked the WTC then you can bet that the Girl Scouts of America would denouce it as an act made individually that was not representative of their organization.....and then they would ask if you would like to order some Thin Mints or Samoas..



-w
post #59 of 86
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Originally Posted by Techunter View Post
So, Jim Jones murders 900 people in the name of his "religion"
and it's none of your business? Some day it will be personal
for you. Ask the families of 2,734 people in the World Trade
Center - they weren't killed by Girl Scouts.
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I make it my business to oppose senseless religious brainwashing and general ignorance wherever it exists. However, I don't follow your train of thought here.
post #60 of 86
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Ahh...but if it WAS the Girl Scouts who attacked the WTC then you can bet that the Girl Scouts of America would denouce it as an act made individually that was not representative of their organization.....and then they would ask if you would like to order some Thin Mints or Samoas..



-w
Don't waste a good crisis.


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