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Muslim Demographics-the math don't lie

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Wow!
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spooky
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lol the music scare you rwalden?

Stop using protection!!!
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Thank you for posting this. It is very interesting.

I now understand the force and zeal behind Right to Lifers. If you really cared about children, you would fight zealously to feed, cloth, educate and insure health care for poor children, just as zealously as you fight for your right to tell a woman what to do with her life.

But you don't really care about a child's right to life; your concern is your right to insure your own immortality. Only your race should prevail.
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Originally Posted by bazooka85 View Post
lol the music scare you rwalden?

Stop using protection!!!
this video should scare people because its a logical solution when taking over,domination by population.
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Shariah law will take care of the abortion pushers
like Maybenull with executions in the town square.
Saw one once on "Heads-off" Wednesday in Riyadh.

Keep mouthing off, Maybenow, they'll get ya......



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LOL fantastic propaganda material. Gee, I wonder how many of those 'muslim' families are poor. Let's use our brains here shall we? According to the CIA World Factbook, fertility rates are highest in the most impoverished, 3rd world nations. Now, if we use some logic, say some quest solving, we can deduce that the issue at hand is that the families are probably poor and thus are theoretically reproducing to maintain the survival of their lineage. Oh snap! This is what we call natural selection!!!! 8.1 doesn't mean people have 8 kids living with them, it means they are capable of birthing 8 kids in a lifetime.

I mean, that's just one significant flaw to your religiously motivated propaganda movie.
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Originally Posted by QuestSolver View Post
this video should scare people because its a logical solution when taking over,domination by population.
Ya, watch out for those Muslims, constituting less than 1% of the US population and nevermind that TFR is theoretical and can't be accurately quantifiable.
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Originally Posted by Bassix View Post
LOL fantastic propaganda material. Gee, I wonder how many of those 'muslim' families are poor. Let's use our brains here shall we? According to the CIA World Factbook, fertility rates are highest in the most impoverished, 3rd world nations. Now, if we use some logic, say some quest solving, we can deduce that the issue at hand is that the families are probably poor and thus are theoretically reproducing to maintain the survival of their lineage. Oh snap! This is what we call natural selection!!!! 8.1 doesn't mean people have 8 kids living with them, it means they are capable of birthing 8 kids in a lifetime.

I mean, that's just one significant flaw to your religiously motivated propaganda movie.
Your misguided "logic" would work IF the poor people
stayed in their collective 3rd world countries. These
stats are for Europe & N.A....
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Yeah... that was one of the biggest pieces of propoganda spin BS I've ever seen.
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Originally Posted by enickma View Post
Yeah... that was one of the biggest pieces of propoganda spin BS I've ever seen.
Being ignorant of Statistics leaves you at a disadvantage.
So, we'll just forget the christian hangups you paint your
views with and point out what the Muslims believe &
know to be true.

Go to Dearborn Michigan - stand in the middle of the Fairlane
Shopping Mall and tell me what you see....... Nothing but
Muslims. They are so determined that they will rule the North
American continent in less than 100 years that they built the
LARGEST mosque in the western hemisphere just 90 miles
south of there in the Ohio countryside. It will serve as the
focal point for the faithful on this side of the world.



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Originally Posted by Techunter View Post
Being ignorant of Statistics leaves you at a disadvantage.
So, we'll just forget the christian hangups you paint your
views with and point out what the Muslims believe &
know to be true.

Go to Dearborn Michigan - stand in the middle of the Fairlane
Shopping Mall and tell me what you see....... Nothing but
Muslims. They are so determined that they will rule the North
American continent in less than 100 years that they built the
LARGEST mosque in the western hemisphere just 90 miles
south of there in the Ohio countryside. It will serve as the
focal point for the faithful on this side of the world.



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so go burn it down! why dont you simultaneously lead a crusade against them to purge them out of your country as well? your negativity is very upsetting, the principles of this country allow them to come here and live their lives as they wish (peacefully), and when they are doing so in numbers you try and find fault and make outrageous claims that they will strip you of your liberties. shariah law? lol. i find it funny that anyone would think white people would let muslims do that in their own country, you should have more faith in your kind, they wont let that happen
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Originally Posted by Techunter View Post
Being ignorant of Statistics leaves you at a disadvantage.
So, we'll just forget the christian hangups you paint your
views with and point out what the Muslims believe &
know to be true.

Go to Dearborn Michigan - stand in the middle of the Fairlane
Shopping Mall and tell me what you see....... Nothing but
Muslims. They are so determined that they will rule the North
American continent in less than 100 years that they built the
LARGEST mosque in the western hemisphere just 90 miles
south of there in the Ohio countryside. It will serve as the
focal point for the faithful on this side of the world.
Talk about hang ups... what does the fact that I think Christianity is riduclous have to do with my perception of that propoganda video? I think Islam is ridiculous as well... it's all the same crap to me.

The ability to see through biased, BS fear tactics doesn't imply an ignorance of statistics. That video mentioned a lot of statistics that it didn't bother citing sources for, and made many conclusions about those "statistics" that represent irresponsible assumptions... all set to ominous background music and a narrator fit for America's Most Wanted. You can't tell me you don't see that for what it is. For instance, they cite the US fertility rate at 1.6... the CIA's website says it's 2.05. They claim that the overal fertility rates for Muslims across Europe is over 8. Can you find any credible sources that support that claim?... I can't.

http://www.prb.org/Articles/2008/muslimsineurope.aspx

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In their study, Westoff and Frejka sift through the available data to estimate the level and trends in childbearing among European Muslims. They show that although Muslim immigrants do have more children than other Europeans, their fertility tends to decline over time, often faster than among non-Muslims.

In Austria, for example, Muslim women had a total fertility rate (an estimate of lifetime births per woman) of 3.1 children per woman in 1981, well above the 1.7 average for the majority Roman Catholic women. By 2001, the rate for Catholics had fallen to 1.3, but the Muslim rate had fallen to 2.3—leaving a difference of just one child per woman between Muslims and non-Muslims.

The gap narrowed even further in the former West Germany, where the authors relied on data by mother's nationality rather than religion. West Germany recruited a large number of workers from Turkey beginning in the 1960s, giving Germany one of Western Europe's largest Muslim populations. In 1970, Turkish women living in West Germany had more than two more children than German women. By 1996, the difference between these two groups had fallen to one child.

Recent trends in the Netherlands tell a similar story (see figure). The fertility gap between native-born women and women born in predominantly Muslim Morocco and Turkey narrowed considerably between 1990 and 2005.
The statistical ignorance lies in that video, not in the person who can identify fear mongering when they see it.
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Originally Posted by imsabah View Post
so go burn it down! why dont you simultaneously lead a crusade against them to purge them out of your country as well? your negativity is very upsetting, the principles of this country allow them to come here and live their lives as they wish (peacefully), and when they are doing so in numbers you try and find fault and make outrageous claims that they will strip you of your liberties. shariah law? lol. i find it funny that anyone would think white people would let muslims do that in their own country, you should have more faith in your kind, they wont let that happen
O.K. It's the least mohammad would do...


and did.



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Originally Posted by enickma View Post
Talk about hang ups... what does the fact that I think Christianity is riduclous have to do with my perception of that propoganda video? I think Islam is ridiculous as well... it's all the same crap to me.


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Originally Posted by enickma View Post
The ability to see through biased, BS fear tactics doesn't imply an ignorance of statistics. That video mentioned a lot of statistics that it didn't bother citing sources for, and made many conclusions about those "statistics" that represent irresponsible assumptions... all set to ominous background music and a narrator fit for America's Most Wanted. You can't tell me you don't see that for what it is. For instance, they cite the US fertility rate at 1.6... the CIA's website says it's 2.05. They claim that the overal fertility rates for Muslims across Europe is over 8. Can you find any credible sources that support that claim?... I can't.

http://www.prb.org/Articles/2008/muslimsineurope.aspx



The statistical ignorance lies in that video, not in the person who can identify fear mongering when they see it.
So, just by being in the presence of
westerners, they turn into slackers?



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Originally Posted by Techunter View Post
So, just by being in the presence of
westerners, they turn into slackers?
Either that, or the simple existence of an environmental upgrade of living conditions by comparison to their impoverished origins is responsible. I believe statistics show that poverty "breeds" a higher fertility rate.

I suppose a good way to tell if it's learned laziness, or improved conditions would be to ask the question... "Are they getting fatter as well?"
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Originally Posted by bazooka85 View Post
lol the music scare you rwalden?

Stop using protection!!!
just the thought of musilms being in control of anything makes me cringe.
let me ask you a question. what muslim ruled country would you trust with a nuclear weapon?
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Originally Posted by rwalden View Post
what muslim ruled country would you trust with a nuclear weapon?
Uh... Nowheristan?

Religious Theocracies should be limited to nerf bats and maybe slingshots... any nation that holds as it's directive, instructions from an imaginary, invisible magic man in the sky, cannot be trusted with weapons of mass destruction... I would be similarly (though not to the same degree) discomforted by the thought of a radical Christian theorcracy controlling nuclear weapons.
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jsut the thought of musilms being in control of anything makes me cringe.
let me ask you a question. what muslim ruled country would you trust with a nuclear weapon?
"Many of us saw religion as harmless nonsense. Beliefs might lack all supporting evidence but, we thought, if people needed a crutch for consolation, where's the harm? September 11th changed all that. Revealed faith is not harmless nonsense, it can be lethally dangerous nonsense. Dangerous because it gives people unshakeable confidence in their own righteousness. Dangerous because it gives them false courage to kill themselves, which automatically removes normal barriers to killing others. Dangerous because it teaches enmity to others labelled only by a difference of inherited tradition. And dangerous because we have all bought into a weird respect, which uniquely protects religion from normal criticism. Let's now stop being so damned respectful!"
--Richard Dawkins

In respects to your question, if i were truly afraid--I would not trust any nation where the people have made the government make decisions based on faith rather than logic.
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