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Obama Lies-Senate Uses Sneak Attack On Guns

As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama deliberately and repeatedly lied
to America's 90 million gun owners across the country when he insisted that
he would not try to take away anyone's firearms, the Citizens Committee for
the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said.

Now House Republicans are trying to add an amendment to the public lands
"Ominous Spending" lands bill that would codify the right to carry concealed
weapons in national parks, less than a week after a federal judge blocked a
similar proposal.

But, Senate leaders have devised a strategy to use a bill that had already
passed the House -- H.R. 146, a proposal to protect Revolutionary War battlefields --
and strip its contents, replacing it with the "Ominous Spending" lands bill.

Because the House already passed H.R. 146, the Rules Committee can approve
a closed rule that would block a motion to recommit, eliminating the GOP's best
procedural chance to stymie the bill. The chamber would only need a simple
majority vote to concur with the Senate amendment.

Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms
CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb, reacting to the "Ominous Spending" lands
bill tactic to force more gun control on U.S. citizen's said "the sneak attack
on guns reveals the Democrats clear intention to outlaw guns everywhere"
"Obama "has been lying to the nation when he says he will not take guns
away."

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly placed an injunction on the Interior
rule last week. The judge's ruling infringed on the rights of gun owners as
drivers in areas such as Washington, D.C., often drive through federal park
lands every day. Rob Bishop (R-Utah) said "It's ridiculous for people to be
subject to two different sets of regulations simply because their car moved
a few feet," Bishop said in a statement. "The judge's decision last week was
wrong."

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post #2 of 38
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What next?

New federal law requires that all nail clippers, screwdrivers, fly swatters
and rolled-up newspapers must be registered by January 2010.



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Originally Posted by Techunter View Post
What next?

New federal law requires that all nail clippers, screwdrivers, fly swatters
and rolled-up newspapers must be registered by January 2010.



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He has only been in office a few months, you just have to give him more time
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He has only been in office a few months, you just have to give him more time

You forgot that it is Bush's fault to...
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When is the last time any politician ever told the truth????????
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Wow, funny that there is no mention of gun control in the HR 146 Omnibus Public Land management Act of '09.

But everyone knows that conservatives have a good imagination.

With all this BS conservatives are going to need a bigger shovel.
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Wow, funny that there is no mention of gun control in the HR 146 Omnibus Public Land management Act of '09.

But everyone knows that conservatives have a good imagination.

With all this BS conservatives are going to need a bigger shovel.
It was in there then it disappeared....

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The bill, as voted on by the House, had been
amended by Jason Altmire (D-Pennsylvania),
to prohibit the closing of the lands described
in the bill to hunting and fishing; this amendment
was intended to entice pro-gun rights Republicans
and Democrats to vote for the bill.
Your Sycophants even documented it in Wikipedia.


Suckazz denial.


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Originally Posted by Techunter View Post
It was in there then it disappeared....

Quote:
The bill, as voted on by the House, had been
amended by Jason Altmire (D-Pennsylvania),
to prohibit the closing of the lands described
in the bill to hunting and fishing; this amendment
was intended to entice pro-gun rights Republicans
and Democrats to vote for the bill.
Your Sycophants even documented it in Wikipedia.


Suckazz denial.


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Good job at back peddling to the truth.
post #9 of 38
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Originally Posted by ceasar73 View Post
Good job at back peddling to the truth.
You're the one trying to deny the attempts are being made to kill gun rights.
post #10 of 38
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You're the one trying to deny the attempts are being made to kill gun rights.
Your dogma is failing, you're grasping at straws trying to find some way that Obama is trying to take your weapons. It's clearly not working, so instead of change your ideals about Obama and liberals in general, you find some little conservative hole on the internet and find some lies that make your dogma still seem plausible. Face it. The Conservative movement is dying, your dogma and ideals are dying, but for no good reason they're so important to you that you're never gonna give them up. Shame. You could probably be a good, upstanding, intelligent citizen, too. Oh well. Cling on, Techunter. Cling on.
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Your dogma is failing, you're grasping at straws trying to find some way that Obama is trying to take your weapons. It's clearly not working, so instead of change your ideals about Obama and liberals in general, you find some little conservative hole on the internet and find some lies that make your dogma still seem plausible. Face it. The Conservative movement is dying, your dogma and ideals are dying, but for no good reason they're so important to you that you're never gonna give them up. Shame. You could probably be a good, upstanding, intelligent citizen, too. Oh well. Cling on, Techunter. Cling on.
Taking on Baggi and Techunter in one day

Don't give up when this gets ugly...
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Still waiting for them to chime in.
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Why would any "gun owner" ever vote for a democrat?
Some did or obama would of not won, what idiots.
post #14 of 38
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Originally Posted by 756744 View Post
Oh well. Cling on, Techunter. Cling on.
Wait.

Are you saying he's one of these...



...or a turd stuck to a butt hair?
post #15 of 38
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Originally Posted by TOMMYGUN View Post
Why would any "gun owner" ever vote for a democrat?
Some did or obama would of not won, what idiots.
... Makes absolutely no sense. Of course some gun owners voted for Obama. Because they know that he won't take away their guns. They know that there's no real reason for them to worry. No president in the history of the united states has attempted a major, nationwide effort to take away all of somebody's weaponry.

You call us idiots. Not really for a good reason, either, and that's what happens when your dogma doesn't hold up, it's a cognitive dissonance thing, nothing really going on makes sense so you take something somebody said and twist into something that doesn't really make any sense, fulfilling your feelings of not really making sense of anything.
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Originally Posted by 756744 View Post
... Makes absolutely no sense. Of course some gun owners voted for Obama. Because they know that he won't take away their guns. They know that there's no real reason for them to worry. No president in the history of the united states has attempted a major, nationwide effort to take away all of somebody's weaponry.

You call us idiots. Not really for a good reason, either, and that's what happens when your dogma doesn't hold up, it's a cognitive dissonance thing, nothing really going on makes sense so you take something somebody said and twist into something that doesn't really make any sense, fulfilling your feelings of not really making sense of anything.
Looking stupid so early in your Newbieness?

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia.17</B>
FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate “assault weapons,” but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen.18
FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1
FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15
FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3
FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9
FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4
FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people
who use firearms in self-defense.5
FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6
FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.
FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7
FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8
FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9
FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10
FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11
FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14
FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9
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Notes

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=1&vote=00219)
2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in “Obama had greater role on liberal survey,” Politico, March 31, 2008. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)
3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=1&vote=00217)
4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: `Common Sense Regulation` On Gun Owners` Rights," ABC News` "Political Radar" Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...common-se.html)
5. Illinois Senate, SB 2165, March 25, 2004, vote 20 and May 25, 2004, vote 3.
6. “Fact Check: No News In Obama`s Consistent Record.” Obama ’08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck...n_obamas_c.php)
7. “Candidates` gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_560181.html)
8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.
9. “Obama and Gun Control,” The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)
10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.
11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2004, SB 2163, vote 18.
12. “Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control,” Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioio...n_edwards.html)
13. Chicago Tribune blogs, “Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action,” February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/b..._on_shoot.html)
14. Barack Obama campaign website: “As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . .” (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ur...aw-enforcement.)
15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes (http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Bara...un_Control.htm and http://www.ontheissues.org/IL_2004_Senate_3rd.htm) Oct 21, 2004.
16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34.
17. United States Senate vote 245, September 29, 2005 and vote 2, January 31, 2006 and Saddleback Forum, August 16, 2008.
18. Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, March 13, 2003. To see the vote tally go to: http://www.nrapvf.org/Media/pdf/sb1195_obama.pdf.
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I love that enickmas avatar is george clooney beat up. He must have brought his nonsense into the public light... lmao!
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The problem here guys is that Tech doesn't understand the difference between "control" and "take away."

Neither do Bigcat, Todd and other NeoCons here.
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I love that enickmas avatar is george clooney beat up. He must have brought his nonsense into the public light... lmao!
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