Obama's Birth Certificate Verified By State - Page 6

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Originally Posted by mmm...Jaz 

There is a new group of people touting themselves as the Afterbirthers...they are demanding to see Obama's placenta.

YEAH ! ! ! ! !  I WANNA SEE THAT ! ! ! ! ! !

He could be a stem cell donor.....

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Originally Posted by Techunter 

One GLARING error.

 

Do you see it?

 

Saw that--I noted the same--not negro or black...but-did anyone else catch the spelling error on the form at the bottom signature verification? the word 'THE' is misspelled 'TXE'...

-w

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Originally Posted by mmm...Jaz 

There is a new group of people touting themselves as the Afterbirthers...they are demanding to see Obama's placenta.

If teaparty folks drink tea...and conspiracy or crazy's drink kool aid...Afterbirthers drink....?

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Originally Posted by wolf825 

Saw that--I noted the same--not negro or black...but-did anyone else catch the spelling error on the form at the bottom signature verification? the word 'THE' is misspelled 'TXE'...

 

 

 

 

-w

 

Here's from a different record with THE rubber stamp

http://grendelreport.posterous.com/ccpga-and-the-questions-begin-to-mount 

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Originally Posted by wolf825 

If teaparty folks drink tea...and conspiracy or crazy's drink kool aid...Afterbirthers drink....?

Breast milk. Also it is now coming to light that all along Obama was trying to hide the fact that he was actually born in Kentucky.

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Originally Posted by 2SHEA 
slap in the face by the SCOTUS

Hate it when that happens. 

So if he produces his college transcripts, next birthers will want his individual college tests and quizzes to be submitted.  They are sadly predictable.  They should just come out and admit they just want to delegitimize his presidency.  That is the agenda.

The Natural Born Citizen Clause of Our U.S. Constitution Requires that Both of the Child’s Parents Be U.S. Citizens At the Time of Birth
The purpose of this essay is to show that one United States citizen parent is not enough to bestow “natural born Citizen” status upon a child. When interpreting the Constitution, we must decide whether we will look to the document as an original and static one whose meaning has already been established at a given time by the People and its Framers or one that is living and which can be changed over any given time by a court of law. See the address of Justice Antonin Scalia to the 2008 Annual National Lawyers Convention on November 22, 2008, at the Mayflower Hotel, in Washington, D.C. http://www.fed-soc.org/publications/pubid.1193/pub_detail.asp. (advocates originalism rather than living constitutionalism). I submit that Article II’s “natural born Citizen” clause has a fixed and knowable meaning which was established at the time of its drafting and should therefore be interpreted through the eyes of the original Framers that drafted and ratified the clause so as to determine what they intended the clause to mean (original intent theory). I also submit that we should interpret the “natural born Citizen” clause in a way that reasonable persons living at the time of its adoption would have declared the ordinary meaning of the text to be (original meaning theory). This is not living constitutionalism but rather originalism or textualism as applied to interpreting the Constitution. It is this latter approach that I will utilize in this article.

E. Vattel stated in 1758, as translated into English in 1797: “The citizens are the members of the civil society: bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see, whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” E. Vattel, The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law, Sec. 212 Citizens and natives. In Footnote 1 at the end of Sec. 212, Vattel stated that “as a general rule” the child inherits his father’s citizenship, or his mother’s but only if she is not married.

From my spectator view, maybe there is something fishy maybe not but who cares..

Move on.. Still arguing about that is much more than just wasted time.

Next year the next expert will follow (maybe) and then all starts again.

And in my opinion Mr. bush still leads historically with his Florida votes counting

ps. I dont like them both..

ps2 Citizen or not, i would worry more about starting printing money again and having debts, and weak economy

and all other things that happen..

So the question remains, why did he wait so long to release it?

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Originally Posted by Z-OldEurope 

From my spectator view, maybe there is something fishy maybe not but who cares..

Move on.. Still arguing about that is much more than just wasted time.

Next year the next expert will follow (maybe) and then all starts again.

 

And in my opinion Mr. bush still leads historically with his Florida votes counting

 

ps. I dont like them both..

 

ps2 Citizen or not, i would worry more about starting printing money again and having debts, and weak economy

and all other things that happen..

There IS something fishy about BHO...and we DO care! We don't just "move on" when something as serious as an ineligible President is occupying the White House. Since Obama got elected, he has done everything in his power to destroy this country. Being a resident of the EU and living under the rules of Kings, Monarchs and Royalty...you wouldn't know what it's like to slowly LOSE the freedoms provided by the American Constitution. Obama has violated our laws by usurping the office of President. The Rule of Law means NOTHING to him and it's really amazing that so many people here actually DON'T CARE what Obama does to America or its Constitution. As long as the turd polishers get food stamps and welfare checks, they'll gladly give up MORE freedoms and continue voting for the bastard.

I didn't like Bush either...but he was a helluva lot better than Obama, until his second term, That's when he started acting like a dictator.

The election of 2012 is going to be really ugly but I'm certain that Obama will lose if the Liberals don't commit fraud by registering dead people.
 

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Originally Posted by StockJock-e 

Congress changed the law in 1940, so quoting 1797 opinions on the law carries little weight.

 

 

What's the source of your information? What I post comes from Constitutional law Professors and Attorneys.

Our Rule of Law was based on the "opinions" of the founders and great thinkers like E.Vattel in the early history of our nation.

Are you going to flippantly dismiss the Constitution as "just a goddamned piece of paper" like Bush did? Did our vets die for nothing?

The only rules that Obama follows is Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals"...because he sure as Hell isn't obeying his Constitutional oath!

      ok, this sentence was a important statement. Thats about.

     ALL of them are trying it, some in this way some in other..

Im still in worry about a war with China, the question is who will start it and with which explanation.

Or see Libya. The same politicians that told us Gaddafi went to a good guy

and is now a guarantor for peace in the middle east tell us NOW why we have to bomb him

There are a lot of you tube clips with same politicians and complete opposite statements. Thats amazing..

Maybe i gave it up, because i saw what happened with my country (Serbia)

saw all the lies and propaganda and see the results now.

So i really dont care, all of them are lying immediately when they open their mouth, and no one can do anything.

They are on power for few years, do their job and then disappear in history and live a nice life.

And let people like us argue about.. And laugh about us..

And, i would never ever go vote, because going voting is like

some guy punch you in the face and you ask 'Can i have more please and do you have some other buddy's that can punch harder ? '

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Originally Posted by Z-OldEurope 

Maybe i gave it up, because i saw what happened with my country (Serbia)

saw all the lies and propaganda and see the results now.

 

And, i would never ever go vote, because going voting is like

some guy punch you in the face and you ask 'Can i have more please and do you have some other buddy's that can punch harder ? '

 

The problem here in the USA is VOTER IGNORANCE...It's staggering!...People go about their lives totally in a fog about politics. If you ask someone the name of our vice president, they'll give you a blank stare...but they can tell you who the winners were on the last 10 episodes of  "American Idol" or the names of every player on an NFL football team. They couldn't care less about the wars in the Middle East or the corruption taking place in our government. Most wouldn't be able to survive a week without their televisions, cell phones or video games. All they know about the President is his NAME and are oblivious to the fact he is a threat to our national sovereignty, is slowly taking away our freedoms and has put this country into a FINANCIAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS...and that's just the BEGINNING!
 

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Originally Posted by 2SHEA 

 

 

What's the source of your information? What I post comes from Constitutional law Professors and Attorneys.

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Originally Posted by StockJock-e 

 

I forgot where I saw it, but a quick search shows a few possible sources repeating it, like this place:

 

http://www.ranchodlaw.com/other-visas/citizenship-and-residency/

In any case, the whole point is moot, the guy IS the President, he is not going anywhere. If there was any bulletproof issue, McCain would have used it during the elections.

 

OK...selective memory...IOW: "I made it up because my argument was being shot down before my very eyes and didn't want to admit that I was wrong. So I posted a link to an obscure web site that deals in immigration/naturalization procedures and visas"...LOL...You WIN!

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance...baffle them with bullshit!

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Originally Posted by 2SHEA 

 you can't dazzle them with brilliance...baffle them with bullshit!

Obamas motto?

LOL infact thats a good contest.... IF obama had a motto what would it be?