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If so, combined with all the other monies committed by the Federal Reserve and Treasury in the form of loans and investments, that brings the headline figure on their attempts to stem the credit crisis to $1.3 trillion.

30 year fixed rose back up to 6.5% with 20% down payments...How are they going to pay this off?

Print that money.... Inflation will follow...
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No, no. We're all covered. I wrote the Fed a check to cover all of it...
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No, no. We're all covered. I wrote the Fed a check to cover all of it...
To kind of you thats like pocket change over there in Texas uhhhh..
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That sums it up, Comrad....
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To kind of you thats like pocket change over there in Texas uhhhh..
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That sums it up, Comrad....
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Those asians are getting smart........

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Depends on which Asians you're talking about. The Japanese with their superior work ethics, more efficient vehicle assembly line methods and design, and better integrated social structure?

Or the Chinese, who created worldwide demand of their cheap products and enormous population positioning their country to be the next world superpower?
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I would like to venture a guess... Chinese, surely....
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I would like to venture a guess... Chinese, surely....
Don't call me Shirley...
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Im talking about the asians printing U.S. dollars to make are dollar worth penuts and both China and Japan are making us look way behind the times..
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Im talking about the asians printing U.S. dollars to make are dollar worth penuts and both China and Japan are making us look way behind the times..
But even besides all of that, our dollar is going to look naturally weak regardless, against anyone else's strong and thriving economy compared to our own struggling economy...
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Breaking News::: China and the world just toying with us will the euro ever stop going up.LOL

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And I know people make fun of him and call him a wacko and I can truly see why one would make that assertion, but if you really listened to his core message and his basic ideals, you would see that Ron Paul truly had a grip on our economy, where it has been headed all this time, and what we really need to do to prop America back up to the great, respected Nation it once was.

That's just my little rant and support for Ron. I am by no means a Ron Paul fanatic, but he has a great message and a stern warning.
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Inflation is the answer...

Once the dollar is worthless, all that debt of ours will likewise be worthless...

We can then start fresh with a new currency after kicking the Federal Reserve OUT!!!

I am working on Bling-Bucks. I'll be sitting down with the next administration to go over the finer details of Bling-Bucks and how we can implement them as our new currency.
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Inflation is the answer...

Once the dollar is worthless, all that debt of ours will likewise be worthless...

We can then start fresh with a new currency after kicking the Federal Reserve OUT!!!

I am working on Bling-Bucks. I'll be sitting down with the next administration to go over the finer details of Bling-Bucks and how we can implement them as our new currency.
No joke I've constructed a way better currency, it'll be more stable than ever before and be backed by value never seen before. It's part of my company I'm building right now, in business plan mode. I plan to be president someday or high ranking official. First I'm building a conglomerate and myself as a role model for this gone bad world we live in. After proven success by working extremely hard I'll take a position in the government.
Most importantly I will build business schools, that push heavy on humanity.

It will truly be something this world has yet to see, at least as advanced.
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BREAKING NEWS

updated 48 minutes ago


WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is asking Congress to let the government buy $700 billion in bad mortgages as part of the largest financial bailout since the Great Depression.

The plan would give the government broad power to buy the bad debt of any U.S. financial institutions for the next two years. It also would raise the statutory limit on the national debt from $10.6 trillion to $11.3 trillion — making room for the massive rescue.

A draft of the proposal obtained Saturday by The Associated Press does not specify what the government would get in return from financial companies for the federal help.

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Treasury Secretary Paulson and his team planned to continue discussions with lawmakers through the weekend. Bush was monitoring Paulson's discussions, but had no meeting scheduled with his Treasury chief as of Saturday morning.

Congressional aides awaited a briefing Saturday from Treasury officials.

The proposal would amount to most sweeping federal intervention to rescue failing financial institutions since the Great Depression. Congressional leaders hoped the developing legislation could pass as early as next week.

The administration is asking Congress for far-reaching new powers to take over troubled mortgages from banks and other companies, including purchasing sour mortgage-backed securities.

"The risk of not acting would be far higher," Bush said Friday.

Democrats are insisting the rescue include mortgage help to let struggling homeowners avoid foreclosures.

They also are also considering attaching additional middle-class assistance to the legislation despite a request from Bush to avoid adding controversial items that could delay action. An expansion of jobless benefits was one possibility.

In a briefing to lawmakers, Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke painted a grave picture of an economy on the edge of a major recession and telling them that action was urgent and imperative.


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In a session with House Democrats, they described a plan where the government would in essence set up reverse auctions, putting up money for a class of distressed assets — such as loans that are delinquent but not in default — and financial institutions would compete for how little they would accept for the investments, said Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., who participated in the conference call.

"You give them good cash; they give you the worst of the worst," Sherman said. A critic of the plan, he complained that Bush and his economic advisers were trying to panic lawmakers into rubber-stamping it.

Lawmakers wanted to know what the government would get in return from financial companies for the federal assistance.

Paulson said the new troubled-asset relief program must be large enough to have the necessary impact while protecting taxpayers as much as possible.

"I am convinced that this bold approach will cost American families far less than the alternative — a continuing series of financial institution failures and frozen credit markets unable to fund economic expansion," Paulson said. "The financial security of all Americans ... depends on our ability to restore our financial institutions to a sound footing."

Administration officials hoped the rescue plan could be finalized this weekend, to lend calm to Monday morning's market openings, said Keith Hennessey, the director of the president's economic council. The goal is to have something passed by Congress by the end of next week, when lawmakers recess for the elections.
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Sit down and watch Bush speak.........

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...03614#26803614
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The government wants to buy $700B worth of mortgages... what is it called when the government owns your house?
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The government wants to buy $700B worth of mortgages... what is it called when the government owns your house?
HUD?
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The government wants to buy $700B worth of mortgages... what is it called when the government owns your house?
No, no. I got it...all of our houses collectively are going to be called the Spentagon...
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