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Highlights:

 

• Henan Provincial Land & Resource Bureau mining reports contradict the production, quality and resource estimates of SVM’s key SGX (Ying) mine as shown in its 40-F and independent NI 43-101 reports that rely heavily upon data provided by management. No independent geologists have visited SVM’s SGX mine since 2008.

 

• Outside Tests of Ore Obtained from the SGX Mine Reveal Low Silver Content • 98% of Henan Found’s Sales Growth in 2010 came from Two Questionable Customers. Management Failed to Disclose SVM’s Largest Customer is a Related Party.

 

• Recent Auction Sale of 5% of Henan Found Values it at a 90% Discount to SVM’s Market Value

 

• SVM Acquired Yangtze Gold from Chairman Rui Feng’s Relative Giving Him a 1500% Gain in Six Months

 

These are enough! The last point is the only reason they want their company on public. They paid huge "tax" and they made huge "sales" to make public think the company is running perfect; to get money from the banks and you, shareholders. Then they start acquiring this and that. (Most of them will be "these junior miners" which doesn't need to have any revenue on the account.) Several years later, the company gets bankrupt. They could say "Sorry, we made some mistakes and we shouldn't acquire these companies". Where does all money go? Their pocket! If they are making this good, they won't go to jail. This is a perfect example!

 

I will never invest a Chinese firm which its CEO/President is the largest shareholder. The only reason they want their companies to be public is to get money and put it into their own pocket.

post #482 of 564

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Originally Posted by ibuddler View Post

• Recent Auction Sale of 5% of Henan Found Values it at a 90% Discount to SVM’s Market Value

 

• SVM Acquired Yangtze Gold from Chairman Rui Feng’s Relative Giving Him a 1500% Gain in Six Months

 

Thanks ibudd,

 

That's just an outrage, if true!

 

One the other hand I see that insiders have been buying up the stock, which would indicate to me that they believe the stock price will rise.  I can't think of any other angle on this, but I am also an investor who does very little due diligence mainly because I don't know how.......

 

Last 10 Insider transactions:

 

Silvercorp Metals Inc. (SVM)

As of September 12th, 2011
Filing Date Transaction Date Insider Name Ownership Type Securities Nature of transaction # or value acquired or disposed of Unit Price
Sep 07/11 Sep 06/11 Feng, Rui Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $7.870 USD
Aug 25/11 Aug 25/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 57,200 $7.814
Aug 25/11 Aug 25/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $7.879
Aug 25/11 Aug 24/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $7.951
Aug 25/11 Aug 24/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $7.923
Aug 25/11 Aug 23/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 92,075 $8.265
Aug 25/11 Aug 23/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $8.277
Aug 25/11 Aug 22/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 50,000 $8.620
Aug 25/11 Aug 22/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 50,000 $8.635
Aug 25/11 Aug 18/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $8.378
amendment.gif - Amended Filing

 


Edited by lowell - 9/13/11 at 3:00pm
post #483 of 564

Company is in the midst of a share buy back (up to 10 million shares).  As of August 31 roughly 2.3 million had been purchased at a price north of $8.00; if all is well, one would think that they would be buying all the stock they can at these levels, however, they do not seem to be doing so, which I find mildly concerning.

 

 

post #484 of 564

Almost pulled the trigger at $6.20 but things are simply too crazy right now.

 

Plus with the way SVM plummetted late in the day, this is likely in for another painful day tomorrow.  Shorts will continue to punish this stock until all these allegations are somewhat resolved.  Muddy Waters announced today that they are now shorting SVM.

 

 

 

 

 

post #485 of 564

IMO we will see one of two things: report comes out as rubbish and stock shoots back up or report comes back as true and further sell-off happens.My guess is the first one.I would be a buyer here with a stop set just in case.


Edited by mxdave - 9/13/11 at 7:25pm
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Thread Starter 

Got this from another board on casey research's comments about the latest allegations. They echo my own thoughts on the situation, except to add that i dont know of any CEO who would invest over 3/4 of a  million$ into the company if it was a scam about to be exposed. And Rui Feng already has a considerable holding in SVM.

With much respect to Casey Research.

9-13-2011
Silvercorp
(US$6.30, 175.06M SO, $1.10B MCap, www.silvercorp.ca)

Re: http://alfredlittle.com/2011/09/13/silve...
Comments: Silvercorp was hit by another accusation of wrongdoing today (which you can view in the link above), and the stock plummeted 19.6%. Our first impression of this report is much the same as the other one – biased, long on innuendo, short on proof, and in some cases, flat out wrong. Let’s go through the accusations one-by-one so you can see why we are not panicking about our position…

The report states that their “investigator” picked up a couple rocks that fell off an ore truck and the assays showed much lower grade material than SVM reports. The report notes this sample is not scientific, and promises better data in the future, but that doesn’t stop them from publishing nonsense numbers now. They also counted the trucks entering the mill and say there are not enough to add up to the tonnage of ore SVM says it’s processing – but how many days did they count? How many days did they count when there was a power issue at the mine, or one of the mill circuits was down for maintenance? What does it really prove to have a guy skulking about the bushes taking pictures and picking up rocks?

One very important fact that seems to have escaped the authors of the report is that SVM direct-ships high-grade ore to a smelter. This is a very significant part of production that does not go to the mill, and that would affect the number of trucks entering the mill, as well as the grade of the ore going to the mill (or falling off a truck along the way).

The report also falsely claims that Silvercorp’s narrow veins cannot be mined without dilution, reducing the average grade. This is simply not true. There’s a technique called “resuing” by which you tunnel next to the ore, and then take only the ore to the mill. The ore needs to be just right, but SVM’s massive sulfide veins are just right for this. Plus, there are areas where the veins are meters wide, and still grading kilos per tonne, so they can be mined directly. Louis James has been there and seen this, and saw it in multiple places in multiple levels of the mine.

The report also makes a big fuss about how large SVM’s MCap is compared to its resources and reserves. They say SVM “should” have more resources. This is more nonsense. It’s very common for vein deposits to have only a year or two in reserves drilled off in advance. Yes, that’s a risk factor, but its normal – drilling off the whole deposit in advance is just too expensive. Nobody does it. Furthermore, SVM trades at lower multiples and metrics than many other silver producers, probably because of the “China discount.” It is simply not overvalued, compared to its peers. This accusation smacks of dishonesty.

Another fuss relates to SVM buying a project from a relative of Rui Feng’s – but that, too, was disclosed at the time. Whether or not the relative made a profit is not relevant; what matters is how much the property is worth to SVM. The report states, “SVM’s independent directors need to explain how this could possibly be a fair price.” But the appropriate place for such a challenge is directly to management, or at a shareholder’s meeting. Since these avenues were apparently not tried, one must question the motives of the company’s attackers.

The report makes another big fuss about SVM selling concentrate to a smelter in which it owns at 15% stake. This ignores the fact that this was fully disclosed when SVM made the investment, and that SVM made the investment to ensure better terms for its sales and security for its contracts. This is not a bad thing, but a very good thing. The authors say they were “shocked” to see this well known and fully disclosed fact, but that's a crock.

post #487 of 564

When the company starts buying back the remaining 7mil shares they want there is going to be a huge short sqeeze.I think they knew this news was gonna really drive it down and they are waiting patiently in the corner ready to pounce on this opp to buy back on the cheap.JMO  I`m just thinking out loud and have no position in this or any other stocks at the time.

post #488 of 564
Thread Starter 

This another interesting piece of info. ON Alfred Little

$ whois alfredlittle.com

  Domain Name: ALFREDLITTLE.COM
   Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
   Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
   Name Server: NS1.WORDPRESS.COM
   Name Server: NS2.WORDPRESS.COM
   Status: clientDeleteProhibited
   Status: clientRenewProhibited
   Status: clientTransferProhibited
   Status: clientUpdateProhibited
   Updated Date: 13-sep-2011
   Creation Date: 11-apr-2011
   Expiration Date: 11-apr-2012

 
Need I say more?  This was a classic attempt at trying to set up what looks like a legit site and then put out a couple articles and give it some history.... and bam! put out the false crap and make things look bad at SVM.  This domain didn't exist till April 11... it was just barely updated TODAY!?  Obviously someone was told to double-check and make sure all their domain registration info was disabled/hidden. 
 
I know the whole history of the Chinese frauds... something just doesn't smell right with this claim though.  This isn't the typical fraud claim... instead this is an entirely anonymous attempt to claim fraud without any provable evidence demonstrated and absolutely nobody that can be held accountable.  Its basically people talking and claiming fraud by pointing their finger at someone else for the evidence.  It just doesn't smell right one bit.
Also the latest from DEER , who was another target of the slippery Alfred Little team.

On March 28, 2011, Deer filed suit against short sellers and certain bloggers including "Alfred Little," a now-admitted fictitious figure, alleging an orchestrated scheme to manipulate and depress Deer's stock. Since then, "Alfred Little" has failed to answer the complaint, changed his identity from a real person to a web-site, and attempted to extort the company by threatening to publish more false defamatory reports until the company dropped its claims against these defendants.

On August 29, 2011, the New York Supreme Court granted Deer's motion to serve "Alfred Little" with the summons and complaint in the New York Litigation by e-mail and "Alfred Little" was served the following day.  A default judgment may be granted against "Alfred Little" if this defendant does not show up in court.  Deer is represented by highly credible and competent legal counsel against the short seller defendants.

Further, as previously disclosed by the company, Deer has court permission to serve document subpoenas on various parties related to the lawsuit to identify the anonymous defendants and Deer will conduct all necessary inquiries relating to the apparent stock manipulation scheme against the Company.

 
post #489 of 564

unfortunately i have been in this stock for well over 6 months, and was already in the RED before this whole debacle...dont really know what to say. I'm hoping these allegations are false--there isn't much else I can do.  It is a very difficult decision to get out at a loss now, or wait for the company to (hopefully) prove itself innocent. 

 

post #490 of 564
The shorters have already made a fortune, over $2.50 per share in profits. Anything else from this point is just more gravy.

I told you something was stinking up the pantry. tongue.gif
post #491 of 564
SVM responded today to the second allegations... http://silvercorpmetals.com/_resources/news/PR_and_schedule_1_to_4.pdf

Even include UBS bank statements in the release and address a few false allegations. I don't see anything that points to fraud in this case. I don't know if I'm missing it or what...market has been panicking to this news.
 
post #492 of 564

POWWWWW

 

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Originally Posted by mxdave View Post

IMO we will see one of two things: report comes out as rubbish and stock shoots back up or report comes back as true and further sell-off happens.My guess is the first one.I would be a buyer here with a stop set just in case.



 

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PDATE 1-Silvercorp slams new allegations leveled against it

15 minutes ago - Reuters
UPDATE 1-Silvercorp slams new allegations leveled against it

TORONTO, Sept 14 (Reuters) - Silvercorp Metals SVM.TO on Wednesday slammed a new set of fraud allegations leveled against it, arguing that the new report targeting it is merely the effort of short-sellers seeking to drive down the value of its share price.

Shares of China-focused miner Silvercorp have slumped this week, after a new set of allegations against the company were posted on the alfredlittle.com website. Earlier this month, the company said it had obtained an anonymous letter accusing it of a $1.3 billion fraud. ReutersLink ID='ID:nN1E7810DH' / (Reporting by Euan Rocha; editing by Janet Guttsman)

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WRAPUP 1-Silvercorp dismisses allegations, shares bounce up
12 minutes ago - Reuters
WRAPUP 1-Silvercorp dismisses allegations, shares bounce up

* Silvercorp dismisses new fraud allegations

* Shares recover somewhat from Tuesday's slump

* Anonymous report based on assays, tallies of trucks

By Euan Rocha

TORONTO, Sept 14 (Reuters) - China-focused miner Silvercorp SVM.TO offered a detailed rebuttal of new anonymous allegations of fraud on Wednesday, releasing figures on tax, production and assay grades to fend off an attack from short-sellers.

Struggling to defend itself against allegations like those that have downed Chinese-focused North American companies such as Sino-Forest TRE.TO, Silvercorp dismissed what it described as "false, selective or ignorant statements and rumors."

"I ask shareholders to exercise common sense in assessing whether these allegations of 'fraud' against the company have any merit whatsoever in the face of very significant revenues, tax payments and dividends, and particularly when the accusations are made anonymously by parties whose only interest is in depressing the company's share price," chairman Rui Feng said in a statement.

"I invite the authors of the anonymous allegations to come out of the shadows and participate with the regulators in their investigations, if their concerns truly extend beyond the profitability of their short positions."

Silvercorp stock jumped 15 percent after the statement came out, reversing some of Tuesday's 20 percent loss.

The stock tumbled after short-seller Carson Block and his firm Muddy Waters confirmed they were shorting Silvercorp in light of a fresh set of fraud allegations posted online.

The new allegations were posted on the alfredlittle.com website. The site, like Block's own Muddy Waters website, says it "publishes cutting-edge long and short investment ideas and research focusing on companies operating and doing business in China."

Muddy Waters hit the headlines earlier this year with a number of short-selling bets against North American-listed companies that are active in China. Its report on Sino-Forest has led to a regulatory probe and a collapse in the tree plantation operator's stock price.

Regulators are also investigating Silvercorp and the allegations leveled against it, which the anonymous author of the Alfred Little report says center on independent assays of ore from the mine and a tally of trucks entering mills.

Silvercorp, which operates the Ying silver mine in China's Henan province, denies all the allegations, and says it's been singled out simply because it operates in China. (Writing by Janet Guttsman; editing by Rob Wilson)

post #495 of 564

Nice call, Mouserman... it appears....

post #496 of 564

So, what do we have......... a heavily undervalued stock, or a Bomb?  hmm.gif

post #497 of 564

I'm not sure if the video on this link is from today, but it shows up on an SVM article from today. Rui Feng on BNN

 

http://www.bnn.ca/News/2011/9/14/Raymond-James-maintains-belief-in-Silvercorp.aspx

 

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People who have legitimate, verifiable complaints have no reason to be anonymous, IMO

Brad Humphrey at Raymond James Financial believes that Alfred Little’s negative report is “opportunistic” and, for that reason, “we suspect SVM will weather this storm and suggest that the company continue to move forward with its operations and development projects, focusing on its strong margins and cash flow, which will ultimately lead to an outperformance.”

 

 

“We also maintain our view that the SGX mine is a high quality asset that has been and should continue to generate positive returns at current and much lower metal prices for many years to come” Mr. Humphrey wrote. “We also believe when you cut through all of the noise it really comes down to the fact that since 2004 the company has raised just over $200-million, paid some $40-million in dividends, $30-million in share buybacks, spent more than $175-million acquiring, developing, expanding and exploring (both in China and Canada) and still have roughly $220-million in the bank. This, along with our site visits and the VAT receipts give us the comfort we need to maintain our view.”

While the other three analysts from BMO Nesbitt Burns, CIBC World Markets and Salman Partners have not released any reports since Alfred Little went public with its findings, BMO analyst Andrew Kaip did release a favourable report just before an anonymous letter writer also raised questions in August. Silvercorp denied the allegations in that letter.

“Unlike some North American-listed, China-focused companies, [Silvercorp] continues to report record profits and has begun deploying free cash flow toward acquiring new projects with potential for near-term production,” Mr. Kaip wrote. “BMO highlights that SVM shares offer long-term investors compelling value, with a 123 per cent implied return to the C$17.50 target price.”

BMO then reiterated this support after Silvercorp publicly responded to the anonymous letter writer.

I can't stress enough that the cases are entirely separate, but I do note that all seven of Sino-Forest’s Canadian analysts had a buy rating on the company before Muddy Waters released its research report.

 

 

post #499 of 564

They are talking about it right now on BNN

SEC and FBI involved in finding the anonymous person

Sounds like they are aggresively pursuing this

post #500 of 564

The guy in the ditch counting trucks must have been drunk.

 

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