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post #441 of 564

Back down in the $7.80s

 

There will likely be many who will be afraid to hold this over the weekend even more so with the TSX closed on Monday.

 

Afternoon trading today and especially the final hour or two could get interesting...... not like the entire day hasn't been interesting thus far. 

post #442 of 564
Told ya something was stinking up the pantry. In the last three hours I've lost another 6 year's worth of dividends. That adds up to 10 year's worth of dividends lost in the last day and a half. Hey Mouser, tell me again how f---ing valuable this dividend is? rolleyes.gif
post #443 of 564
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Originally Posted by skwerl View Post

Told ya something was stinking up the pantry. In the last three hours I've lost another 6 year's worth of dividends. That adds up to 10 year's worth of dividends lost in the last day and a half. Hey Mouser, tell me again how f---ing valuable this dividend is? rolleyes.gif

 

Even more if they end up having to cut the dividend because of this fiasco laughing.gif

 

But seriously I have never seen a guy so mad at a dividend!

 

post #444 of 564
Thread Starter 

Well we know why the company is down, some gangster shorter in the US, thinking he can pull a MUDDY Waters on SVM and short millions of shares , AND THEN MAKE ALLEGATIONS of fraud.

I hope SVM fries these shorts in court. Or perhaps makes a onetime divvy of .15 to make them pay.

 

post #445 of 564

Shorts are winning back in the $7.60s. 

 

This may tank this afternoon.  No way fund managers are going to hold this over the weekend.

 

Well played shorts (although completely illegal); well played!

post #446 of 564

I just read that report here's a link

http://silvercorpmetals.com/news/2011/index.php?&content_id=304

Here we go with another company in China

If skwerl thought he was having a bad day this could ruin his whole weekend

post #447 of 564

Well I am out, just waiting till the dust settles. Going to be one helluva rocket ride to the upside if these allegations are proved false. I find it suspicious that the letter writer chose to remain anonymous at least Carson Block had the balls to call out Sino forest. As well the company has responded very well even making bank statements public. Me thinks the shorters are trying to capitalize on recent chinese scams time will tell.

post #448 of 564

This actually makes me like the company more.  Before you really didn't know what was going on, it was just being a dog.  I really have my doubts with this report, who makes an anonymous report???  It doesn't look like they have any factual information either, just "to good to be true" statements.  It looks like they are trying to capitalize on the china fiasco....

 

I say they should halt it, leaf through this report, and when a complete audit has been done reopen it.  That should teach 'em.

post #449 of 564

You should never trust Chinese companies!!! The market/government in China is like mid-cenury in Europe. Look at the Chinese stock market: from 1000 points way up to 6000's in one year then down to 1000 points again in another year. Everything can be faked even if they can provide government docs and tax reciepts. Chinese government esp local government will provide anything the company wants if the company 'makes' contributes in the local 'GDP'. TRE is a very good example.

 

At this moment, I will suggest just get out from this stock!! Don't short or long and just wait everything is clear!! (I personally don't hold/short anything.) There're tons of stocks in the market and I believe lots of them are way better than this one. If you are not, you are just gambling not investing. Then I would suggest go to Casino!!!!

post #450 of 564
I'm out as well for now after the 2nd movement downward today. While I feel strongly that it this is all smoke and mirrors I did not have the stomach for holding over the weekend. Hope it surprises everyone with a huge open on Monday, but I feel better watching from the sidelines for now.

But seriously, lets all try to keep it civil here. We all have the same goal -- making money -- however each of us have different risk tolerances, financial allocation/resources, etc. No one individual should be held accountable for their sentiment and views on a stock. At the end of the day we are the ones who make the buy and sell orders, and no one else.

GLTA and I'll see you next week
post #451 of 564

SVM should be able to purchase the 7.5 million shares remaining under their share purchase program at significantly discounted prices. 

 

Hmmmmm....... on that note, maybe there is no letter afterall and the news released was a highly orchestrated plan by the company to minimize the cost of their share purchase program.  Afterall it was a pretty quick and detailed response to new found allegations. 

 

HOW'S THAT for a conspiracy theory! 

 

Damn Chinese, making everything over there and screwing everything up!

 

Regardless, please continue the nose dive so I can buy some at $6.00 (or lower) at 3:59 today.  Then proceed to have the allegations proven false over the weeked and open Tuesday at $8.50 with a close above $9.00.  Thanks.

 

 

post #452 of 564

Any body know if the Ontario Securities Commission  even received this letter? 

 

SVM response indicates that it hadn't confirmed if the letter was sent to any of the parties........ which is strange to begin with.

 

If the OSC hasn't received anything I will be remortgaging to buy SVM (not really but you get the point); as this would immediately become a dead issue but given the trading I today am guessing they did in fact receive the letter signed........ anonymous tipster.

 

 

post #453 of 564
Thread Starter 

Late yesterday afternoon, the Company was forwarded a copy of an anonymous letter dated August 29, 2011 addressed to the Ontario Securities Commission, the Company's Auditors, and various media outlets maliciously alleging a "Potential $1.3 Billion Accounting Fraud at Silvercorp".   The anonymous author also stated that his firm held a short position in the Company's shares and intended to make his concerns known through internet postings.   The Company has not confirmed whether the letter has been disseminated to all the addressees or if any postings have been made.

SVM is on the move now trying to track down the sender of the letter, and the entity who is shorting them , so they can begin litigation.

The anonymous letter may be hard to prove, however  the short seller should be relatively easy to track down, the trading records are available at SVM's request.

post #454 of 564

Hi Guys

   I'm new in stock market. would you please suggest me what's broker company your guy choose for trade in TSX?

and what is the best plateform your guy use for trading so far?

Thanks everyone  for information

post #455 of 564

Good grief.  Naked short selling is still not illegal.  Tricky waters to navigate as an investor in equity. 

 

  1. Short selling
  2. Exorbitant audit fees
  3. Dilution through warrants and options to insiders strategically priced and timed to unreleased news
  4. Leaked news
  5. No news
  6. Unfocused directors sitting on multiple boards
  7. Geopolitical risk
  8. Native land claims
  9. Idealistic environmentalists deaf to economic benefits

 

To have purchased bullion 10 years ago and kept all trading and market web sites in the "off" position.  Imagine?

 

 

post #456 of 564
Thread Starter 

Yes the silver bullion ( and sterling silver) that i bought 4 and 5 years ago, has done every bit as well as the trading account. And a lot less worry and headache.

Sometime i think we are just around to make the banks/brokers rich off all the commissions.

post #457 of 564
Thread Starter 

On another note, this was Casey Research thoughts on the dubious anonymous allegations.

As the press release makes clear, Silvercorp has been the target of an unknown group alleging fraud on the part of the company. After reviewing the allegations, Silvercorp's supporting documentation, and speaking with management, here's our take. First, the primary allegation – that the company is losing money when claiming they’re profitable – appears to have no merit. The numbers from this anonymous group exclude income from SVM’s subsidiaries – but you must include them to get a consolidated number. With that, there’s simply no way to reach the negative number they claim. Further, all company financials are audited, including their profits. They also pay one of the highest dividends in the silver industry and are buying back millions of their own shares, something that would be very difficult to do, much less hide, if they were losing money, and would require fraud on a massive scale.

Regarding the allegation of grade “too good to be true,” Louis James of International Speculator has been to the Ying mine – twice – and seen the massive sulfides that bear the high-grade silver on multiple levels. He's seen the direct-shipping ore heaped by the kilotonne, ready to go, as well as the old mill producing at the fastest rate he's ever witnessed. We've not seen the new mill working yet, but Jeff Clark has confirmed his participation on the tour later this month.

We are pleased with management’s response. They told us in no uncertain terms that the allegations are completely false (except for the fact that they own a very high grade silver mine). They are being fully transparent with their financial records and are dealing with the problem head-on. They informed us they’ll be posting a video on their website soon regarding the allegations. They are opening the Ying mine tour later this month to virtually any interested party, something out of the ordinary. They also contacted the authorities immediately, and established a task force to investigate the parties behind the allegations, one member of which includes the former Ambassador to China. Last, they state they will continue buying millions of their own shares, something you couldn’t do if you didn’t have the money. This is all appropriate, reassuring, and frankly, not the behavior of a guilty party.

"We have no reason to suspect Silvercorp has done anything wrong. It appears this is a deliberate attack on the company to profit on existing short positions. Keep in mind that this is not the first time a company operating in China has been targeted by similar tactics; a number of companies have been hit with similar allegations, the most prominent of which was Sino Forest by short seller Muddy Waters last June. These people have clear reasons for circulating false rumours.

What to do? First, do not panic, and do not sell your shares. Given what we know at this point in time, we have no reason to change our opinion of the company. Keep in mind that CEO and Explorers’ League honoree Rui Feng has an incredible track record. Would we buy here? Perhaps, with the caveat that we don’t know how bad the fallout could be and thus how low the shares could go. Given the enormous short position in the stock, they could fall lower – but at some point many of those positions will unwind and force the stock higher. If you have a full position, we recommend simply holding to your shares until this settles; if you have room in your portfolio to add or initiate a position, we think this could be a fantastic opportunity. In the interests of full disclosure, members of Casey Research and/or the Casey Fund may be buying shares in the next few trading days, and maybe even selling some puts as a short-term speculation."

 

post #458 of 564

almost bought at 6.92 the other day..... damn..... this one will be an rocket when it recovers......

post #459 of 564
Thread Starter 

Yes rocketting it is, and i got caught swinging the entire lot. Did not see the 10% jump today and held very strong, not the big intraday swings we have seen, Perhaps shorts are getting very nervous here.

post #460 of 564
Thread Starter 

Company standing behind the stock, and latest is CEO Rui Feng buying shares.

Silvercorp Metals Inc. (SVM)

 

As of September 8th, 2011
Filing Date Transaction Date Insider Name Ownership Type Securities Nature of transaction # or value acquired or disposed of Unit Price
Sep 07/11 Sep 06/11 Feng, Rui Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $7.870 USD
Aug 25/11 Aug 25/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 57,200 $7.814
Aug 25/11 Aug 25/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $7.879
Aug 25/11 Aug 24/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $7.951
Aug 25/11 Aug 24/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $7.923
Aug 25/11 Aug 23/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 92,075 $8.265
Aug 25/11 Aug 23/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $8.277
Aug 25/11 Aug 22/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 50,000 $8.620
Aug 25/11 Aug 22/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 50,000 $8.635
Aug 25/11 Aug 18/11 Silvercorp Metals Inc. Direct Ownership Common Shares without par value 10 - Acquisition in the public market 100,000 $8.378
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