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anyone thinking of shorting fed tomorrow?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
ok we just got .75% cut
and the market is expecting a .50% cut tomorrow...

like seriously how dumb are people they they expect the fed to drop rates 1.25% in like a week?

im expecting .25% but common 50? gimme a break!

so im wondering if anyone else is planning on going short into the fed or after?
post #2 of 14
.25 short broad indexes.
.50 long oil.
That is my current plan.
I do think they will cut .50.
post #3 of 14
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.25 short broad indexes.
.50 long oil.
That is my current plan.
I do think they will cut .50.
yea but what really makes you think they will cut 50 tomorrow?

like they just gave us 75 points... what makes you think they will give us 50?
post #4 of 14
from somewhere else:
With the FOMC interest rate decision getting closer, markets continue to position themselves for a rate cut of 50 basis points from the Fed in hopes the move will stave off a recession. Fed funds futures are indicating greater than a 90% chance of a half percentage point cut, while the consensus from economists has moved from a 0.25% cut to 0.50%.
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With the FOMC interest rate decision getting closer, markets continue to position themselves for a rate cut of 50 basis points from the Fed in hopes the move will stave off a recession. Fed funds futures are indicating greater than a 90% chance of a half percentage point cut, while the consensus from economists has moved from a 0.25% cut to 0.50%.
lol yea but thats just dumb...

we just got 75 points... i doubt we will get 50...
post #6 of 14
Look at fed funds futures too..... as well as bond rates
post #7 of 14
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Look at fed funds futures too..... as well as bond rates
yea treasury bills are telling me that bonds are getting sold because yield is going up... and the money is flowing somewhere probably into the market thats usually how it works...

if rate cut was coming would the yields be going lower?
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lol yea but thats just dumb...

we just got 75 points... i doubt we will get 50...
Do a bit of research on Bernanke. The guy studied the 1920 depression a lot, and his conclusion was that they didn't cut rates quick enough. So he will cut rate quickly.

He wants to avoid the stagnation part of stagflation, at the possible cost of inflation. That is rather obvious.
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from somewhere else:
With the FOMC interest rate decision getting closer, markets continue to position themselves for a rate cut of 50 basis points from the Fed in hopes the move will stave off a recession. Fed funds futures are indicating greater than a 90% chance of a half percentage point cut, while the consensus from economists has moved from a 0.25% cut to 0.50%.
where's that from?
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where's that from?
http://forexfactory.com/news.php?do=news&id=67546
post #11 of 14
I'm waiting all week in cash until just after the announcement. Hopefully we'll get some more upside tomorrow too. I want things to be as high as possible before I start selling again. I'm sitting cash for the meeting too and depending on the severity of the cut and the reaction, I'm 80% sure I'm going short by the close Wed.
post #12 of 14
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Do a bit of research on Bernanke. The guy studied the 1920 depression a lot, and his conclusion was that they didn't cut rates quick enough. So he will cut rate quickly.

He wants to avoid the stagnation part of stagflation, at the possible cost of inflation. That is rather obvious.
That's true, but Ben has been more reactionary than proactive. Ben has been reluctant to cut until there was blood on the streets. Ben has either been a week late or 1/4 point short on his cuts. Ben first tries to add liquidity to the markets, or push the Treasury Department to 'bail out' lenders, or push Congress for a stimulus package to delay cutting the rate. None of those excited the markets, but each time Ben waited and hoped they worked in lieu of cuts. Maybe Ben has learned and will go for the half-point cut this time. Otherwise looks for another bloodbath. There are a few in the fed who really fear inflation and don't want to cut, although Ben has not seemed overly concerned with that yet.
post #13 of 14
I think the market expects at least 25. We get 25 and the market trades down because we didn't get 50. We get 50 and we trade slightly up. Just my 2 cents.
post #14 of 14
Hope for a 0 cut and blood everywhere so we could short everything and make a ton in few hours.
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