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Hi.

Have a question that a friend of mine has posed to me and could not answer. He's a student with no taxable income on record. He has a ~$20k lump sum after recently cashing out a mutual fund his father gave him (tax was paid for). He has now opened up a TDAmeritrade account, been paper trading for the last year, and is looking to start actively investing with real money.

Pure speculation...say hey were to turn that $20k into $1million within a year. He will be an Masters student for at least 2yrs.

What tax would he be responsible for if pulling it out prior to a year (short term) and just after a year (long term)?

We are in the state of California.

My understanding is he would pay 5% long term and 15% ($0-27k tax bracket) for short term. Do these gains ever get hit with income tax (minimum in CA is 9.3% I believe).

Help a tax fool out since I always have a hired accountant do the dirty work.

Thanks.
post #2 of 8
The More You MAke the Higher the Tax bracket gets ,
post #3 of 8
Say i got 10k in my account

I make 100k profit, can i just withdraw that 100k and not report it?

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Hi.

Have a question that a friend of mine has posed to me and could not answer. He's a student with no taxable income on record. He has a ~$20k lump sum after recently cashing out a mutual fund his father gave him (tax was paid for). He has now opened up a TDAmeritrade account, been paper trading for the last year, and is looking to start actively investing with real money.

Pure speculation...say hey were to turn that $20k into $1million within a year. He will be an Masters student for at least 2yrs.

What tax would he be responsible for if pulling it out prior to a year (short term) and just after a year (long term)?

We are in the state of California.

My understanding is he would pay 5% long term and 15% ($0-27k tax bracket) for short term. Do these gains ever get hit with income tax (minimum in CA is 9.3% I believe).

Help a tax fool out since I always have a hired accountant do the dirty work.

Thanks.
It makes no difference whether he keeps it in his account for a year or not. Capital gains refers to holding a stock for over a year, not if the money has been in your account for over a year. If he's actively trading, he probably doesn't have to worry about capital gains anyways. If he makes a net profit for the year, he will most definitely have to pay income tax on it which will vary depending on his tax bracket. Consider any profits you made the same as working at a normal job, except no one is taking taxes out of your profits on a weekly basis.
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I thought the capical gains tax bracket reflects how much you maker per year. So if you make 30k a year then your in the 15% tax bracket, but if your a student and make 0 dollars per year and but were swing trading and made 10k for that year. What tax bracket would you be paying in? Is the lowest short term capital gains tax 15% no matter what?
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You'd be in the lowest tax bracket if you make under $7,825, 15% if you make more than that.

http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/article...164272,00.html
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I'm no expert, but could he put it in an IRA and trade within that IRA, say a Roth, and not be subject to tax?
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Topic 409 - Capital Gains and Losses

Almost everything you own and use for personal or investment purposes is a capital asset. Examples are your home, household furnishings, and stocks or bonds held in your personal account. When you sell a capital asset, the difference between the amount you sell it for and your basis, which is usually what you paid for it, is a capital gain or a capital loss. If you received the asset as a gift or inheritance, refer to Topic 703 for information about your basis. You have a capital gain if you sell the asset for more than your basis. You have a capital loss if you sell the asset for less than your basis. Losses from the sale of personal–use property, such as your home or car, are not deductible.

Capital gains and losses are classified as long–term or short–term. If you hold the asset for more than one year before you dispose of it, your capital gain or loss is long-term. If you hold it one year or less, your capital gain or loss is short-term.

Capital gains and deductible capital losses are reported on Form 1040, Schedule D (PDF). If you have a net capital gain, that gain may be taxed at a lower tax rate than the ordinary income tax rates. The term "net capital gain" means the amount by which your net long–term capital gain for the year is more than your net short–term capital loss. Currently net capital gain is generally taxed at rates no higher than 15%, although, for 2008 through 2010, some or all net capital gain may be taxed at 0%, if it would otherwise be taxed at lower rates. There are three exceptions:

The taxable part of a gain from selling Section 1202 qualified small business stock is taxed at a maximum 28% rate.
Net capital gain from selling collectibles (such as coins or art) is taxed at a maximum 28% rate.
The part of any net capital gain from selling Section 1250 real property that is required to be recaptured in excess of straight-line depreciation is taxed at a maximum 25% rate.


If you have a taxable capital gain, you may be required to make estimated tax payments. Refer to Publication 505, Tax Withholding and Estimated Tax, for additional information.

If your capital losses exceed your capital gains, the amount of the excess loss that can be claimed is the lessor of $3,000, ($1,500 if you are married filing separately) or your total net loss as shown on line 16 of the 1040 Schedule D, Capital Gains and Loses. If your net capital loss is more than this limit, you can carry the loss forward to later years. Use the Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet in Publication 550, to figure the amount carried forward.

Additional information on capital gains and losses is available in Publication 550, Investment Income and Expenses, and Publication 544, Sales and Other Dispositions of Assets. If you sell your main home, refer to Topics 701 and 703, or to Publication 523, Selling Your Home
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