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Originally Posted by kevin1612 View Post

great...idk what i was looking at fri and sat...now im curious...or just losing my mind rolleyes.gif

was def down all last week wink.gif
post #130782 of 136697
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great...idk what i was looking at fri and sat...now im curious...or just losing my mind rolleyes.gif


Let's see how Asian markets start off tomorrow morning. Hong-Kong,China and Taiwan should be key. China being the one needing to bail out Europe now laughing.gif This news is constantly on the news as local news and finance media on TV constantly mock how China is now needed to help bailout the west which once looked down on the Chinese in Asia. The Chinese used to look up to the Europeans as the rich westerners which are now poor,in debt and of need of Chinese money. They also mock them because they always criticize them for their business practices in China while they say their business practices earn them money while those in the west have problems.

 

PS: Just what the local media is saying laughing.gif

post #130783 of 136697
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Originally Posted by kevin1612 View Post


was def down all last week wink.gif


While Asian Indexes have broken their support the US has not of which I see at around 10800 (take or give a little) at the moment. Israel's Index bounced off their support line big time today when it bottomed around 993. That's twice recently that it tested it. We have Asian indexes last week breaking support and closing below while Israel's broke below and bounced hard off of it after hmm.gif

post #130784 of 136697
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While Asian Indexes have broken their support the US has not of which I see at around 10800 (take or give a little) at the moment. Israel's Index bounced off their support line big time today when it bottomed around 993. That's twice recently that it tested it. We have Asian indexes last week breaking support and closing below while Israel's broke below and bounced hard off of it after hmm.gif

maybe even 10400 intraday...and i am still expecting to break below that in coming weeks/ months...the sooner the better tho...

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post #130785 of 136697
and as i have expressed lol i am very unhappy with the oct rally along with the one we had from sept 2010 to the sell off in aug this year and think we are in denial...would still feel good about another 8-12% hair cut from here...have been waiting to get back to 9500-10500 and revisit 1020-1040 S&P
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I just read the following. It's an update to a previous post. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think we'll see a bump in the markets tomorrow.

 

BERLIN (Reuters) - France and Germany are planning a quick new pact on budget discipline that might persuade the European Central Bank to ramp up its government bond purchases, Welt am Sonntag reported on Sunday.

Echoing a Reuters report on Friday from Brussels, the Sunday newspaper said the French and German leaders were prepared to back a deal with other euro countries that might induce the ECB to intervene more forcefully to calm the euro debt crisis.

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/germany-france-plan-quick-stability-001114358.html?l=1

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"stock market down on europe recession fears" will only work for so long, must be an easy job at bloomberg have the same article posted EVERYDAY

 

 

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Euro Rescue Fund May Insure 30 Percent of Bonds, Draft Shows

Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- The European Financial Stability Facility may insure bonds of troubled countries with guarantees of between 20 percent and 30 percent of each issue to be determined in light of market circumstances, according to EFSF guidelines to be considered by finance ministers this week.

The insurance would be in the form of tradable partial protection certificates, to be issued by an independent Luxemburg-based special purpose vehicle, the guidelines show. The step is one of several new tools including setting up private funds with investors and selling short-term debt aimed at increasing the EFSF’s power to combat the debt crisis.

Euro-area finance ministers are due to meet in Brussels on Nov. 29 as governments bid to regain the confidence of financial markets. With bond spreads soaring to records, Germany failed to attract enough buyers for a sale of its benchmark bunds on Nov. 23 and two days later Belgium’s credit rating was cut one step to AA.

The proposal to attach guarantees of up to 30 percent of future EFSF bond issuances’ worth may create a threefold expansion of the 440 billion-euro ($583 billion) fund, according to the guidelines distributed to lawmakers in Berlin. The EFSF’s pool of potential aid would also be increased by setting up so- called credit investment funds with private investors to buy the bonds of euro-region states that struggle to sell their debt.

Leveraged Fund

French President Nicolas Sarkozy has said that the bailout fund might be worth $1.4 trillion after European governments agreed last month on steps to leverage existing guarantees as much as fivefold. European leaders are next due to hold a summit on Dec. 8-9.

The new instruments may need to be supplemented further, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble told reporters in Berlin on Nov. 25 following talks with Dutch Finance Minister Jan Kees de Jager and Finnish Finance Minister Jutta Urpilainen.

Leaders will seek a “separate path” of help from the International Monetary Fund to boost the EFSF, Schaeuble said. IMF help must be “substantial enough to help Italy and Spain,” de Jager told reporters, saying that talks on creating credit investment funds had run into “problems.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Brian Parkin in Berlin at bparkin@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: James Hertling atjhertling@bloomberg.net

 
 
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From what I see on the intraday charts from the last few down days I didn`t see much short covering toward EOD so it looks like alot of the  shorts held and could get trapped if we see a gap and run Monday.. that could cause a popbiggrin.gif

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euro up 40 pips which is good for the market which i think will be up this week. Good for me because i have no cash lol. Only thing i can do now is switch positions if i feel the need. Cheap stock i don't own TOT BP E POT and ETN. I'll find a way to buy them eventually. 

post #130791 of 136697
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From what I see on the intraday charts from the last few down days I didn`t see much short covering toward EOD so it looks like alot of the  shorts held and could get trapped if we see a gap and run Monday.. that could cause a popbiggrin.gif



tapped shorts is music to my ears.

 

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Now it looks like you might have a choice if we see a pop up here with AAPL.. do you sell at a point to cut losses .... wait to get back even or wait longer to try to make a profit on the trade? Hard decision ah...that`s why I 95% of the time day trade and don`t hold overnight... GLbiggrin.gif
 

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tapped shorts is music to my ears.

 



 

post #130793 of 136697
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tapped shorts is music to my ears.

exactly...like Coon says...maybe take some off table on a pop...see if aapl goes the way of the market or has a mind of its own wink.gif
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Thanksgiving Weekend Sales Increase to Record $52.4 Billion

Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. retail sales during Thanksgiving weekend climbed 16 percent to a record, as shoppers flocked to stores earlier and spent more, according to the National Retail Federation.

Sales totaled $52.4 billion, and the average shopper spent $398.62 over the holiday weekend, up from $365.34 a year earlier, the Washington-based trade group said in a statement today, citing a survey conducted by BIGresearch. More than a third of that -- an average of $150.53 -- was spent online.

Many retailers opened on Thanksgiving this year to lock in sales from consumers still leery about spending amid 9 percent unemployment, a sluggish housing market and slower third-quarter economic growth than previously estimated. The number of people shopping during the Thanksgiving Day weekend rose to a record 226 million, up from 212 million last year, the NRF said.

Toys “R” Us, for example, opened at 9 p.m. on Thanksgiving and started importuning shoppers a month before with circulars and emails, the earliest ever according to chief executive officer Gerald Storch. Deals included half off board games, with titles such as Candyland selling for $5.

More than half of shoppers bought clothing, the most popular category, followed by electronics.

The number of people shopping online and at stores on Thanksgiving Day jumped to 28.7 million from 22.2 million last year. About a quarter of all shoppers visited stores by midnight of Black Friday, up from just 3.3 percent two years ago.

“Consumers are clearly demonstrating their desire to spend this holiday season, but are far from throwing caution to the wind when it comes to how much they will spend on gifts,” said Phil Rist, executive vice president at BIGresearch. “Retailers will have to stick to an aggressive holiday promotion schedule to keep consumers interested.”

Black Friday, so named because it was traditionally the day many retailers became profitable, is expected to be the busiest shopping day this year, a status it had ceded for some years to the Saturday before Christmas.

Holiday sales may rise 2.8 percent this year, or about half of last year’s 5.2 percent gain, according to the NRF.

post #130795 of 136697
unless something big and constructive gets done im thnking maybe up early to start and drift and fade lower mid - late day...as for the week prolly much of the same ...U.S. and world markets need major surgery...no more band aids
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I'm wondering how many people used credit cards to make these black friday purchases, and how it'll affect the economy come feburary, when the bill's show up.....

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I think there were some people who learned a lesson about buying on credit when they got burned .... but the American way it seems is to buy on credit to keep up with Da Joneses and not wait till they can afford to buy it cash like they shouldbiggrin.gif
 

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I'm wondering how many people used credit cards to make these black friday purchases, and how it'll affect the economy come feburary, when the bill's show up.....



 

post #130798 of 136697

I would think a great many used credit cards. Those online especially. I think the markets could see a bit of a pop especially if they don't pull something very negative out of their hat. I think some of the people who dumped Wednesday and friday so as not to hold over the weekend could buy some of it back if the news the world is ending didn't appear. The news of the new " Stability Pact" may be seen as the EU starting to take this all a little more seriously.

 

 

post #130799 of 136697

This site has a recent posting up (11/27) with links to recent articles from yesterday/today:
 

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/11/imf-and-ecb-to-offer-italy-a-600-billion-euro-bailout-sources.html

 

Sunday, November 27, 2011

IMF and ECB to offer Italy a 600 billion euro bailout (sources)

Cross-posted from Credit Writedowns

There is a flurry of activity going on in Euroland this weekend. I have a number of stories up on different proposals in the offing.

Clearly, European policy makers have got religion about saving the euro. Expect some kind of announcement soon.

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European bond backstop plans being planned, slowing China we all know that, now China might loosen policy.

 

Retail sales seen to be keeping up and exceeding expectations for black Friday, the media will 

make it bullish. I'm looking for an up week

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