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post #601 of 781
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Originally Posted by kingtime View Post
wti over $78 now
my XON should do well tomorrow
post #602 of 781
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Originally Posted by Crazed98 View Post
my XON should do well tomorrow
oil sliding off its overnight highs down near 77, pretty good drop considering the tear it was on. Looking at preM activity lots of red, financials down steep, spx down.. could be the break I was looking for
post #603 of 781
Back over 78 oil continues to go higher 6 days in a row.
post #604 of 781
well I am fully out of short positions holding long calls for hedge still nov 40's i am dumbfounded by this persistent rally in wti. there are some very strong forces pushing oil higher this is catching many analysts off gaurd. I suspect GS and other large institutions may be at least partially responsible.. maybe hoping to fulfill their $85 year end predictions. either that or something in the works that only those privileged are aware of.. it is quite clear fundamentals are out of the question once again.. ahh good times :S
post #605 of 781
Any one think oil will hit 80 by eow??
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IMO King Dollar being turned into a pumpkin has more to do with WTI than anything right now, with all the talk of trading oil in a currency basket moving forward feeling like it has a lot to do with the dollar devaluation. I flipped UCO from PM 13.8x to 14.0x, small beans but it woulda been smaller in USO. I don't like USO at all, and will only day trade the oil issues unless there is a specific news event breaking or imminent that may set up a probable multi-day rally... and I don't trust UCO half as far as I can throw it. Leveraged, ETF, contango, you name it.
post #607 of 781
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Originally Posted by decade View Post
Any one think oil will hit 80 by eow??
Yes. although i thought it would be up more today with the markets up around 1%
post #608 of 781
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Originally Posted by rando View Post
IMO King Dollar being turned into a pumpkin has more to do with WTI than anything right now, with all the talk of trading oil in a currency basket moving forward feeling like it has a lot to do with the dollar devaluation. I flipped UCO from PM 13.8x to 14.0x, small beans but it woulda been smaller in USO. I don't like USO at all, and will only day trade the oil issues unless there is a specific news event breaking or imminent that may set up a probable multi-day rally... and I don't trust UCO half as far as I can throw it. Leveraged, ETF, contango, you name it.
Yeah oil has been hard to swing trade lways but lately seems to be worse, or I am nto getting the breaks. Have had far more success playing with NAtgas 2X People dont buy gas as a dollar hedge
post #609 of 781
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Originally Posted by decade View Post
Any one think oil will hit 80 by eow??
Looks probable

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NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Crude-oil futures rose Monday for an eighth straight session, ending at a new one-year high near $80 a barrel as a weaker dollar and rising U.S. stocks stirred more bullish sentiment among energy traders.

Crude for November delivery gained $1.08, or 1.4%, to $79.61 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, the highest settlement for a front-month contract since last October.

Crude for December delivery, which registered higher volume, gained 1.2% to $79.96 a barrel.

"Oil has broken out," said Phil Flynn, vice president at futures trading and research firm PFG BEST Research, adding that the $80 level could be soon reached.

Oil rallied 9.4% last week, the biggest weekly gain in two months. It has gained 14% in the eight sessions starting Oct. 8.

Oil traders are betting that "positive third-quarter results in the U.S. corporate sector and better U.S. housing market data continue to fuel economic optimism," wrote analysts at Commerzbank in a note to clients.

"Should the markets be disappointed, however, an oil price correction is likely," they said, adding that the later stage of the rally in oil has mostly been driven by speculators.

China, the world's second biggest oil consumer, saw economic growth at an estimated rate of 9% in the third quarter, a research department of the country's State Council said Monday. That's up sharply from 7.9% growth in the second quarter and 7.1% over the first half of the year, according to the official Xinhua news agency. See full story.

In the U.S., industrial production increased at an annual rate of 5.2% in the third quarter, the fastest growth in four years and the first quarterly increase since the recession began late in 2007.

Positive economic news typically boosts oil prices, because it raises expectations for a swift economic recovery and a rebound in energy demand.

In other energy trading, November reformulated gasoline gained 0.4% to $1.9872 a gallon and November heating oil added 1.1% to $2.0522 a gallon.

November natural-gas futures rose 1.1% to $4.835 per million British thermal units.

The United States Oil Fund /quotes/comstock/13*!uso/quotes/nls/uso (USO 40.80, +0.35, +0.87%) gained 0.8%, and the United States Natural Gas Fund /quotes/comstock/13*!ung/quotes/nls/ung (UNG 11.69, +0.12, +1.04%) rose 1.2%.
post #610 of 781
Oil futures flirting with that 80 mark
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Guess it is a bad time for me to upgrade out of my civic.
post #612 of 781
something interesting about oil from bloomberg.com....

Oct. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Oil is “too cheap” and should rise to $88 a barrel in coming months after the dollar’s decline against the euro, a DekaBank study suggests.......A euro-dollar rate of $1.55 would push oil to $96 a barrel, the DekaBank study shows. A rate of $1.40 would imply a crude price of $74, according to the study.

post #613 of 781
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Guess it is a bad time for me to upgrade out of my civic.
I have a Civic and a 328is...the MPG may very well decide which one I sell. LOL. 32mpg or 20mpg city...hrmmm. But the Bimmer is so sweet damnit.
post #614 of 781
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Originally Posted by nico2379 View Post
something interesting about oil from bloomberg.com....

Oct. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Oil is “too cheap” and should rise to $88 a barrel in coming months after the dollar’s decline against the euro, a DekaBank study suggests.......A euro-dollar rate of $1.55 would push oil to $96 a barrel, the DekaBank study shows. A rate of $1.40 would imply a crude price of $74, according to the study.
If only it were that simple theres a lot more to crude futures then simply comparing USD/EUR chart altho right now it is ONE of the main dirving forces it SEEMS.
post #615 of 781

Oil is looking very nice here.

Watch for the breakout above $80.

post #616 of 781
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I have a Civic and a 328is...the MPG may very well decide which one I sell. LOL. 32mpg or 20mpg city...hrmmm. But the Bimmer is so sweet damnit.
That's the one I was looking at but maybe a xi. Probably get in after the winter.

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Originally Posted by amohedas
Watch for the breakout above $80.
I agree, I think the USD is the key if it breaks below the 74.50 mark watch oil pop.
post #617 of 781
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Originally Posted by Crazed98 View Post
That's the one I was looking at but maybe a xi. Probably get in after the winter.



I agree, I think the USD is the key if it breaks below the 74.50 mark watch oil pop.
XI after winter??? What good is awd once the snow clears?
When I can do it right I'll run with a 335 turbo, till then Civic it is. Made my mind up finally. LOL
post #618 of 781
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Originally Posted by amohedas View Post
Watch for the breakout above $80.

That book I mentioned earlier said that the catalyst for the market to turnover was oil spiking, and wouldn't you know it oil is about to give us a buy signal while the markets are setting up for sell signals. i really recommend getting that book.

"The Great Depression Ahead" for those interested.
post #619 of 781
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XI after winter??? What good is awd once the snow clears?
When I can do it right I'll run with a 335 turbo, till then Civic it is. Made my mind up finally. LOL
Figured I could get a better deal after winter plus I'll have more money saved up I'm not big on financing. Not sure if my civic will last until then though it is turning into a rust bucket. I was also considering an audi a4 awd turbo they are even a little cheaper than the bmws but I don't think they are as reliable.
post #620 of 781
There is data being hidden by International Energy Agency.
It appears that they are being pressured not to reveal the truth
about oil reserves. If new information is released, this could cause a spike in
oil I think.
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