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post #1 of 850
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Welcome to the intraday discussion thread for the trading week beginning June 4th.

 

It looks like the sentiment is becoming negative enough that we may get some bounce next week if there are no more negative surprises in store.

 

The bullish scenario in my chart here shows a possible 5 wave down completing, the next move will be a bounce higher to test some resistance levels.

 

https://www.tradingview.com/x/3QjIZCF9/

 

Gold and gold miners had a good rally, but still way within that wedge. If that support is lost, this could flush lower, so be cautious.

 

https://www.tradingview.com/x/0TQzmFUT/

 

 

Weakest Job Growth In A Year

 

 

 

 

Economic Calendar for the week:

 

 

Monday Jun 4


Factory Orders
[djStar]
10:00 AM ET





Redbook
[Bullet
8:55 AM ET


ISM Non-Mfg Index
[djStar]
10:00 AM ET


James Bullard Speaks
2:15 PM ET

Richard Fisher Speaks
7:00 PM ET

Charles Evans Speaks
7:30 PM ET
 


Dennis Lockhart Speaks
8:15 AM ET


Daniel Tarullo Speaks
10:00 AM ET


Beige Book
[djStar]
2:00 PM ET

Dennis Lockhart Speaks
2:15 PM ET

Treasury STRIPS
[Bullet
3:00 PM ET

John Williams Speaks
3:30 PM ET

Janet Yellen Speaks
7:00 PM ET
 

Weekly Bill Settlement

Jobless Claims
[Star]
8:30 AM ET


Ben Bernanke Speaks
10:00 AM ET



Dennis Lockhart Speaks
11:00 AM ET






Narayana Kocherlakota Speaks
1:15 PM ET

Consumer Credit
[Bullet
3:00 PM ET

Richard Fisher Speaks
3:30 PM ET


Money Supply
[Bullet
4:30 PM ET

Narayana Kocherlakota Speaks
 


Wholesale Trade
[Bullet
10:00 AM ET

 

 

As reality starts to set in, will the Bernanke put come back and give this market the helping hand yet again?

 

A confidence-crushing May jobs report has turned market talk back to the idea of more Federal Reserve easing. But the question is: How much more can the central bank do with Treasury yields at record lows.

 

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CNBC.com

Friday’s employment report showed that just 69,000 jobs were created in last month, less than half of what Wall Street expected. The unemployment rate crept up to 8.2 percent from 8.1.

On top of that, revisions made for March and April erased 49,000 jobs from those two months.

“This alone doesn’t bring the Fed back in—but this combined with Europe brings the Fed back in,” said Mesirow Financial chief economist Diane Swonk. “The Fed needs to keep its powder dry for a potential financial crisis (from Europe), and that possibility just went up. This underscores that we’re not an island.”  » Read More

post #2 of 850

market tank until:

 

Thursday Jun 7
Weekly Bill Settlement

Ben Bernanke Speaks
10:00 AM ET

 

????????

 

 

 

 

and man this was up fast. i see i'm not the only one having an adrenaline rush

post #3 of 850
Job growth??? What job growth? ....
oh, everywhere but here & europe
post #4 of 850
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Originally Posted by StockJock-e View Post

Welcome to the intraday discussion thread for the trading week beginning June 4th.

 

Gold and gold miners had a good rally, but still way within that wedge. If that support is lost, this could flush lower, so be cautious.

 

https://www.tradingview.com/x/0TQzmFUT/

 

 

 

 

 

Man the GLD monthly chart is at a very important level now. I think the way it performs in June will be the deciding factor on how it does the rest of the year (sounds crazy I know). But I plan on either going long or shorting heavily towards the end of June depending on how it goes.

 

 

Anyway, I'm looking for more downside again next week. Not as much though. Looks like we're gonna be in a tighter range. I'm looking for a move down to around 1255 - 1260. And that's gonna be pretty big support there, so we should get a good bounce.

post #5 of 850
indeed...i am still excpecting 1200 gold this year wink.gif
post #6 of 850
People using gold as a hedge against the market?
Sounds like 2008 all over again.
post #7 of 850
well i just think its been over priced for far too long and maybe a strong dollar / weak euro.while bringing equities down more will also have gold and silver down as well just not as much as it woulda been if the economy was 'all better'
post #8 of 850
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Originally Posted by kevin1612 View Post

indeed...i am still excpecting 1200 gold this year wink.gif

 

Sweet, I'm looking for Gold to go back below 1,000 eventually. I'm bearish on the dingy metal.

post #9 of 850

I hope both of you are very very very very very wrong....

 

edit: very very very very very very veryyyyyyyy wrong

 

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Originally Posted by kevin1612 View Post

indeed...i am still excpecting 1200 gold this year wink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by o7media View Post

 

Sweet, I'm looking for Gold to go back below 1,000 eventually. I'm bearish on the dingy metal.

post #10 of 850
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Originally Posted by o7media View Post

 

Sweet, I'm looking for Gold to go back below 1,000 eventually. I'm bearish on the dingy metal.


You must overly optimistic about the economy and a bit too bullish on the markets if you're expecting gold to be under 1,000/oz.

post #11 of 850

I too think gold could fall significantly. To me, it has very little value at all, basically for use with electrical components. Why it has anything to do with currencies or as something to be stored in bars makes no sense to me at all. But, I don't decide what things are worth.

post #12 of 850
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Originally Posted by Venom08 View Post


You must overly optimistic about the economy and a bit too bullish on the markets if you're expecting gold to be under 1,000/oz.

 

Actually you have it backwards. I'm bearish.

 

Gold has a direct correlation to the markets. If the markets crash so will Gold.

 

edit: Only way Gold can continue to soar is if the government keeps printing money. There may be a QE3, however they can't keep printing money forever and keep devaluing the USD.

 

The thing about Gold at this point is in a bad economy it will fall with the markets while the USD gains value. And in a good economy (assuming things do turn around) the fed won't do any easing which will still make Gold fall. Either way you look at it, Gold is not a good investment IMO.

post #13 of 850
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Originally Posted by webChris View Post

I too think gold could fall significantly. To me, it has very little value at all, basically for use with electrical components. Why it has anything to do with currencies or as something to be stored in bars makes no sense to me at all. But, I don't decide what things are worth.

 

Yes I agree.

 

I fund it funny when people say the Dollar is worthless because it's just a piece of paper. But they love Gold when it's just a piece of metal.

 

SIlver has more use than Gold, and is a better investment IMO.

post #14 of 850

For now it looks like the 1220 area and the  bottom trendline is major support.. if broken at the bottom trendline... look out below IMObiggrin.gif

 

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post #15 of 850

Well i sucked some serious wind last week trying to play the bounces and now that i am looking for 1250 as the next target i am sure we will bounce now..

 

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post #16 of 850

Looks like there startin with the news BS already to try and save Da day as usual.. we havent confirmed a break below the 1280 area on SPX cash yet so this could be the area there tryin to save for nowbiggrin.gif

 

European Union Said to Prepare Start of ESM for July 9

The European Union is targeting July 9 as the start date for its permanent euro-area rescue fund, the 500 billion-euro ($620 billion) European Stability Mechanism, an EU official said.

Parliaments across the 17-nation currency union must ratify the fund before it becomes available to counter the financial crisis spawned in Greece. Until it receives 90 percent of its expected capital allotment, officials must turn to the temporary European Financial Stability Facility, a 440 billion-euro fund with 240 billion euros available.

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EU Said to Prepare Start of Permanent Bailout Fund for July 9

Jock Fistick/Bloomberg

The European Commission headquarters in Brussels.

The European Commission headquarters in Brussels. Photographer: Jock Fistick/Bloomberg

 

June 1 (Bloomberg) -- Todd Schoenberger, managing principal at BlackBay Group, John Silvia, chief economist at Wells Fargo Securities LLC, and Matthew McLennan, portfolio manager at First Eagle Funds, discuss the European debt crisis and investment strategy. They speak with Betty Liu and Adam Johnson on Bloomberg Television's "Street Smart." (Source: Bloomberg)

The start date depends mainly on the outcome in Germany, where lawmakers may vote as late as the first week of July. Considering the national approvals required, euro officials hope the July 9 target date will hold, said the official, who declined to be named because the planning isn’t public.

The ESM is the centerpiece of Europe’s $1 trillion firewall to stave off financial contagion from the debt crisis that has wreaked havoc on markets and pushed Greece, Portugal and Ireland to seek bailouts. The ESM represents the euro area’s capacity for further aid programs, since the rest of the firewall is made up of 300 billion euros already committed to the rescue effort.

The euro has dropped 6.8 percent against the dollar over the past two months, nearing a two-year low yesterday as investors grow concerned the currency area may splinter. The euro closed at $1.2415 in Brussels yesterday, up from an earlier low of $1.2288.

German Share

Germany will contribute 27 percent of the ESM’s capital, so if lawmakers there vote this month, the fund could be operational by July 1. The ESM will share staff with the existing EFSF in Luxembourg, where hiring and other preparations are under way. Participating countries must hand over the first installments of paid-in capital within 15 days of ESM ratification.

Getting the ESM in place will be an important signal to markets that the euro area continues to support the crisis- fighting plan, said Michala Marcussen, global head of economics at Paris-based Societe Generale SA. So far Portugal and France have ratified the ESM, with parliaments across the euro area slated to address the issue in coming weeks.

“It seems to be taking longer, but they are pushing,” Marcussen said May 29. “There does seem to be a possibility it’s delayed. It’s not a problem practically but it adds to uncertainty revolving around the whole situation and that’s the issue.”

-- With assistance from Zoe Schneeweiss in Vienna, Brian Parkin in Berlin and Simon Kennedy in London. Editors: James Hertling, Jeffrey Donovan

To contact the reporters on this story: Rebecca Christie in Brussels at rchristie4@bloomberg.net;

To contact the editors responsible for this story: James Hertling at jhertling@bloomberg.net;

post #17 of 850

reminds me of this...

 

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Originally Posted by Davecash77 View Post

Well i sucked some serious wind last week trying to play the bounces and now that i am looking for 1250 as the next target i am sure we will bounce now..

 

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post #18 of 850
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Originally Posted by o7media View Post

Sweet, I'm looking for Gold to go back below 1,000 eventually. I'm bearish on the dingy metal.

ditto...but may be 1-3 years
post #19 of 850
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Originally Posted by Davecash77 View Post

Well i sucked some serious wind last week trying to play the bounces and now that i am looking for 1250 as the next target i am sure we will bounce now..

 

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On my watch list CMG, AMAT, AGU, CRZO, ABB, CAT, APA, NFLX, AND GOOG all broke support.

 

I tried and bailed real quick on AGU, still holding shares in ABB and weekly options in APA.

 

I think if the markets don't firm up this week I will be looking at shorting  GOOG and CMG.

 

 

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Originally Posted by charulz View Post

reminds me of this...

 

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That is pretty funny, and might be true but I'm seeing lower lows and lower highs.

 

IMO if we close below 1270ish we could go to 1216ish

post #20 of 850

1200 def. not out of the realm of possibilities.. our last 2 major sell offs were about 200-250pt drops on the SPX.. 1400-200 = 1200.. math ftw

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