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post #21 of 307
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When there is so much going against you you just make small plays. I don't have any large positions.

post #22 of 307

STONE....WHAT is it about Sandstorm you don't like?

 

I'm just curious.

 

You liked SLW.... didn't you?

post #23 of 307
Thread Starter 

Well, for starters they have 410,742,513 shares outstanding. Do you know what it takes to move a stock with 400 million shares?

 

 

gold sales for the three months ended March 31, 2012 of 7,946 ounces,

 

It sells at $7.9 a share?

 

That makes to company worth $3 BILLION dollars.....give me a break.

 

Plus, virtually everything CD has ever  recommended  (pumped) has turned out to be a POS.


Edited by stoneranger - 5/30/12 at 5:09pm
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Vancouver, British Columbia, May 8, 2012 -- Sandstorm Gold Ltd. ("Sandstorm" or the "Company") (TSX-V:SSL) announces that, further to its press release of May 4, 2012, the Company will give effect to the consolidation of its common shares ("Common Shares") on the basis of five (5) pre-consolidation Common Shares for each one (1) post-consolidation Common Share (the "Consolidation") at 12:01 a.m. tomorrow, being Wednesday, May 9, 2012. Sandstorm shareholders authorized the Consolidation at the shareholder's meeting held on May 4, 2012 and the Company's post-consolidation Common Shares will be posted for trading on the TSX Venture Exchange ("TSXV") at the opening tomorrow, May 9, 2012 under the current symbol "SSL" and new CUSIP number 80013R206.

The 349,658,858 Common Shares issued and outstanding prior to the Consolidation have been consolidated to approximately 69,931,772 Common Shares. If, as a result of the Consolidation, a Shareholder would otherwise be entitled to a fraction of a post-Consolidation Common Share, the number of post-Consolidation Common Shares will be rounded to the nearest whole number. The Company's currently outstanding stock options will be adjusted on the same basis with proportionate adjustments being made to the stock option exercise prices.

The Company has an aggregate of 98,332,360 listed warrants (the "Listed Warrants") issued and outstanding trading on the TSXV under the symbols "SSL.WT" and "SSL.WT.A" and the Listed Warrants will continue to be traded on the TSXV under these symbols following the Consolidation of the Company's Common Shares. It is important to note that the Listed Warrants are not being consolidated. Following the Consolidation, each five (5) Listed Warrants of SSL.WT (expiring on April 23, 2014) will entitle the holder to purchase one post-consolidation Common Share at the adjusted total exercise price of US$3.00. Each five (5) Listed Warrants of SSL.WT.A (expiring on October 19, 2015) will entitle the holder to purchase one post-Consolidation Common Share at the adjusted total exercise price of US$5.00. In accordance with the terms of the Warrant Indentures governing the Listed Warrants, notice of the Consolidation has been sent to all holders of these warrants.

Sandstorm has mailed letters of transmittal to the registered holders of its Common Shares, requesting that they forward their pre-consolidation Common Share certificates to the Company's transfer agent, Computershare Investor Services Inc., for exchange for new Common Share certificates representing their Common Shares on a post-consolidation basis.

ABOUT SANDSTORM GOLD

Sandstorm Gold Ltd. is a growth focused resource based company that seeks to complete gold purchase agreements with companies that have advanced stage development projects or operating mines. A gold purchase agreement involves Sandstorm making an upfront cash payment to its partners and in exchange, Sandstorm receives the right to purchase a percentage of the gold produced for the life of the mine, at a fixed price per ounce. Sandstorm helps other companies in the resource industry grow their business, while acquiring attractive assets in the process.

Sandstorm is focused on low cost operations with excellent exploration potential and strong management teams. Sandstorm has completed gold purchase agreements with Luna Gold Corp., SilverCrest Mines Inc., Santa Fe Gold Corp., Rambler Metals and Mining plc, Brigus Gold Corp., Metanor Resources Inc. and Donner Metals Ltd.

For more information visit: http://www.sandstormgold.com.

 

 

 

BASED on the same investment model as SLW only for gold...... WHAT am I missing here?

 

I didn't understand SLW's business model after Wheaton River Minerals, BUT this looks like a chance to ammend for that mistake.

post #25 of 307
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Good ..I hope you make a bundle on it. But just because silver wheaton was a success means nothing. Rob McEwen took a small company (Goldcorp) and turned it into a world-class producer. He left Goldcorp to start his own, new company. Now 9 years later his new company is still selling at $2. With over 400 million shares (including options and warrants) Sandstone will have to be making multi-millions per year to even come close to justifying it's current price.

post #26 of 307

I don't have any..... I sold BEFORE the R/S.

 

I just wanted to hear your opinion.

post #27 of 307
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Oh...anyway, it just doesn't appeal to me. Just 'cause I don't like it doesn't mean it can't go up, just that I wouldn't put money into it. Many because of all the shares issued.

post #28 of 307

98,332,360 is too many?   Or is it because the float is representative of a reverse split?

post #29 of 307
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98M isn't that bad, but the total is still 400M now. Sure, the stock is $8 as opposed to $2 but with that many shares out..it becomes hard to move the stock because there are so many millions of shares available to be traded. If it was a $2 stock w/98M that would be fine. You might have expected the stock to double ot more from $2...but it's not going to $16 or $24 unless they really start making huge profits. Silver Wheaton has 350M shares.

post #30 of 307

OK .... call me stupid.....

 

The 349,658,858 Common Shares issued and outstanding prior to the Consolidation have been consolidated to approximately 69,931,772 Common Shares. If, as a result of the Consolidation, a Shareholder would otherwise be entitled to a fraction of a post-Consolidation Common Share, the number of post-Consolidation Common Shares will be rounded to the nearest whole number. The Company's currently outstanding stock options will be adjusted on the same basis with proportionate adjustments being made to the stock option exercise prices.

The Company has an aggregate of 98,332,360 listed warrants (the "Listed Warrants") issued and outstanding trading on the TSXV under the symbols "SSL.WT" and "SSL.WT.A" and the Listed Warrants will continue to be traded on the TSXV under these symbols following the Consolidation of the Company's Common Shares. It is important to note that the Listed Warrants are not being consolidated. Following the Consolidation, each five (5) Listed Warrants of SSL.WT (expiring on April 23, 2014) will entitle the holder to purchase one post-consolidation Common Share at the adjusted total exercise price of US$3.00. Each five (5) Listed Warrants of SSL.WT.A (expiring on October 19, 2015) will entitle the holder to purchase one post-Consolidation Common Share at the adjusted total exercise price of US$5.00. In accordance with the terms of the Warrant Indentures governing the Listed Warrants, notice of the Consolidation has been sent to all holders of these warrants.

 

 

I'm pretty sure SLW did the same thing..........

 

What the market had to say

The market is always the best gauge. At the time of this writing Silver Wheaton is trading at C$0.68 (close 12/10/2004) while NY spot silver stands at US$6.68.

According to the web site company's share structure, after the proposed 5-1 stock split (not yet in effect as of this writing) will be as follows:
Symbol: TSX: SLW
Shares outstanding: 166.9 M
Warrants: SLW.WT - 23.5 M, Exercise price C$4.00, expire Aug 5 2009)
Warrants: SLW.WT.A - 8.1 M, Hold period until March 31, 2005,
Exercise price C$5.50, Expire Nov 30, 2009)

That puts its market capitalization at about C$492.3 MM or roughly US$402.2 MM (based on CAD/USD at 0.817). We can read that as "moderately optimistic" valuation of the company.

Based on a few assumptions:
Silver: US $7.00
2005 Production: 9,500,000 ounces (projected by the company)
Stock Price: US 0.56 (before reverse stock split)
Cost per ounce: US $3.90

Based on these numbers Silver Wheaton is trading at approximately 13 times of 2005 sales. Operating expenses could be low since this is a royalty company, but at this point it's hard to put a number on them. The $3.90/ounce is cost for first three years. It will rise thereafter, but likely no more than corresponding appreciation in silver price.

Starting 2006 this the company is expected to produce 10 MM ounces of silver. It's easy to see that each $1 increase in silver price should result in additional $10 MM in cash. That is if the company does not hedge its future production. Wheaton Silver's web site states zero hedging at present time.

 

http://silverstrategies.com/story.aspx?local=1&id=15555

 

 

 

The arguement here is that just because they pulled if off with silver doesn't mean they can do it with gold...correct?

 

I seem to recall reading that they reached the point where they don't need investment banker money anymore to fund future streams.

post #31 of 307
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Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post

SLW Shares outstanding: 166.9 M (at that time) 167M is NOT 400M
 

 

 

The arguement here is that just because they pulled if off with silver doesn't mean they can do it with gold...correct?...no

 

 

my point has been.....the more shares outstanding the harder it is to move the price..has nothing to do with the company itself. If 25% of the shareholders decide to sell or take profits or whatever that means that there would be approx. 100 million shares for sale....who would be buying?  BUT, on the other hand. if you only had 80-90 million shares outstanding...there would be less supply...making it easier to move the price.

post #32 of 307

I understand THAT.......

 

They DID the R/S....SO they DON'T have 400 mil shares anymore....

 

I guess I'm just surprised that you don't like the gold streaming idea........

 

Especially NOW that they don't need to borrow money to add additional streams.

 

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I got my eye on it .... in case it comes down in PPS.

 

A lower price of gold is really their only enemy aside from baby with the bath water syndrome.........

post #33 of 307
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Gold and Gold Miners

By: Ian Campbell | Thursday, May 31, 2012
 

Why Read: Because almost every day now there is Media and Internet commentary on the current prices at which gold mining stocks are trading:

  • some of which is excellent:

  • some of which isn't so excellent;

  • a lot of which simplistic; and,

  • some of which seems to be written from 'vested interest perspectives'.

This commentary includes views you may want to consider carefully if you participate directly or indirectly in the physical gold or gold stocks markets either as investor or trader.


Gold Companies and Gold Companies

Some commentators talk and write about 'gold mining stocks' as if they 'are all the same thing', and all fall into one broad category. That is overly simplistic. It is important when reflecting on 'gold stocks to carefully distinguish between companies that:

  • are exploring for gold, which companies can properly be described as gold exploration companies, but not 'gold mining companies'. Broadly speaking, gold exploration companies are speculative investments/trades, where the degree of speculation is based at any given point in time on whether a given company has:
    • yet to find what may prove to be commercially viable deposits (at the most speculative end of the 'speculation curve'), or
    • Has found what are believe to be possible commercially viable deposits and are about to begin the 'development phase' (the least speculative end of the 'speculation curve').
  •  

Subject to prevailing and prospective financial market conditions, it is arguable that the best of the gold exploration companies represent what can turn out to be very high return investments/trades;

  • have found commercially viable gold deposits and have entered the 'development stage' with respect to their project(s), but again are not as yet 'gold mining companies'. These companies can best be described as gold exploration/development companies. Gold exploration/development companies arguably may be somewhat less speculative than gold exploration companies. That said, investors and traders ought to be knowledgeable of at least:

  • the prospects of reserve and resource quantity enhancements during the development period, and after production starts,

  • increasing 'Country Risk' in some jurisdictions - and what may be further increased 'Country Risk' going forward in those and other jurisdictions,

  • developer 'timing to production' - and what might happen to the gold and by-product (copper, nickel, silver, etc.) prices, net cash on hand, and resultant potential shareholder dilution issues that may arise from required new capital raisings through the development period,

  • the escalating operating and environmental costs that may affect facilities construction costs, equipment costs, and prospective year/year operating cost increases per ounce of production - and hence may affect the ultimate economics of the project(s) under development, and

  • Importantly, how 'locked-in' a particular company's Board and Management is to developing their project(s) through to production, as contrasted with pursuing a 'sell to strategic purchaser' strategy. Arguably investors and traders face greater share price risk in a 'develop to production' scenario - particularly if financial markets are more than less volatile and risky during the development period; and,

  • producing gold, and hence can legitimately be called 'gold mining companies'.


Underlying Financial Market Assumptions and Issues

Commentators talking and writing about 'gold mining stocks' often seem to base their views on unstated underlying assumptions that:

  • the financial markets are properly reading the current macro-economic climate, and

  • the current financial markets at least will maintain a 'status quo' equilibrium going forward. That is, that world financial markets will not at some near-term or longer-term date experience a financial crisis that is in scope less than, equal to, or greater than, the one experienced in 2008.

Commentators also frequently seem to base their views with respect to 'gold stocks' to a greater degree than perhaps they should on historic financial market experience - this having regard to the:

  • extent of economic globalization that has occurred after 1999,

  • extent of trading volumes currently being executed pursuant to high-frequency algorithmic trading methodologies,

  • extent of hedge fund and derivatives activity that currently exists, and

  • Levels of volatility and risk related to sovereign debt leverage and other factors that ultimately must bear on the world financial markets.

For the foregoing and other reasons the current financial markets arguably are quite different in many important respects from the pre-2000 financial markets, and to some degree different from the pre-2008 financial markets.

Finally, some commentators in the current financial markets environment also seem to have forgotten, or now discount, what happened in the fall of 2008 when many investors and traders had to sell out positions based on margin calls and 'flight to investment/trading safety' reasons.

It is important to always remember that rising tides raise all boats, and falling tides drop them, often leaving some 'high and dry'. Gold exploration, development, and mining stocks are unlikely to be exceptions to that rule.


Consider carefully whether the Financial Markets 'May Be Right' in their Current Gold Mining Share Pricing

With that background, consider that gold mining company share prices (read 'shares of companies that actually produce gold) are not simply 'derivatives' of gold (as suggested by at least one commentator), nor are 'gold's fortune's' the 'only real long-term fundamental' of gold stocks (as recently suggested by a second commentator). That said, it is correct to say that at any given point in time the prices of gold mining stocks (and gold exploration and gold development company stocks) are influenced by the then gold price and then expected gold 'trend price'. In turn, it currently seems that the price of physical gold is being continuously influenced by a financial markets perception that the U.S.$ is itself a safe haven in turbulent economic times.

Following from the foregoing, the financial market 'disconnect' perceived by some may well simply be that the current prices of gold mining (producing) stocks are, aside from the physical gold price, result from strongly being influenced by important risk and operating cost issues, including:

  • country specific risk issues;

  • mine equipment and operating costs, which broadly seem to be escalating;

  • skilled labour scarcity, where that currently is being broadly reported as an issue;

  • environmental costs, which broadly speaking, seem to be escalating; and,

  • the fact that, unlike non-resource businesses, gold mining (producing) companies at any point in time have a finite life - baring continued resource acquisition or deposit expansion. As a consequence, analysts have great difficulty applying conventional discounted cash flow valuation methodologies to those companies. As a result, analysts may be less comfortable with their analysis of gold producers in current markets than they are with their analysis of 'more conventional' companies. If that indeed is the case 'less comfort' implies 'greater risk', and hence in both theory and typically in practice 'lower share prices' than might otherwise be the case.

  •  

Finally, gold producer stock prices may also currently be influenced (downward from what they otherwise might be) by the proliferation of ETF's and other paper gold instruments. Simply put, investors and traders currently have physical gold investment/trading alternatives that didn't proliferate until after late 2004. These alternate gold investments/safe haven holdings eliminate country risk and operating cost/environmental cost risks in the context of investor/speculator/trader buy/hold decisions.

It follows (or ought to follow) that for gold mining (producing) companies to be attractive going forward they will need to be able to demonstrate at least the following things:

  • significant leverage on the gold price through clear and known scheduled growth in output over the course of their known mine lives; and,

  • attendant internal cost controls per ounce of production, which costs are dependent on deposit type, deposit location, deposit grades, local labour costs, and a plethora of other things,

Thereby to some degree offsetting the business and operating risks implied by the foregoing.


So What Does All This Mean?

As a result of the foregoing, it can be argued that:

  • absent a seriously increased gold price from current levels, the foregoing factors may lead to diminished world gold production, which in turn over time ought to be reflected in higher prospective physical gold prices. However, that will not be a short-term phenomenon should it transpire; and,

  • Under any circumstance, this may mean that share prices of lower grade, high cost gold producers operating in higher country risk jurisdictions will suffer going forward.

Moreover, these things may, in combination with what appears to be ever more worrisome world macro-economic issues, result in;

  • a positive impact on both:
    • the gold price over time, and
    • the share prices of high grade, comparatively lower cost gold miners that operate in the safest (least country risk) mining jurisdictions; and,
  • potential increased merger & acquisition activity among gold producers, explorer/developers, and explorers where:
    • gold producers are able, through either merger or acquisition, add commercially viable gold reserves or prospective reserves to their property portfolios, and/or
    • business combination 'synergies' can be achieved to reduce total cash costs per ounce.

That said, make no mistake, generalizations with respect to gold companies and their share prices - be they explorers, explorer/developers, or miners - are very dangerous, and broadly should be viewed with skepticism. Gold companies at all levels are participants in a highly speculative, high risk industry where their revenues are driven by world prices they themselves do not control. They can, of course, hedge to protect their revenues if they elect to do that - but based on existing accounting rules, hedging itself can be harmful to earnings per share in a 'rising gold price' environment.


Conclusions

In conclusion:

  • Gold mining companies arguably are the least speculative of the three types of 'gold companies. That said, investors and traders ought to be aware of and understand all of the foregoing if they plan to own or trade gold mining company shares;

  • As a generality, high potential returns ought to follow from high risk investment/trading. That said, in order to balance those things, investors and traders ought:

  • to both understand and have a well founded opinion of overall financial market risk at any given point in time based on an understanding of how financial markets work and what influences them - and a clear understanding that stock, bond, and other financial instruments are priced by the financial markets at any given specific point in time, and can change (sometimes dramatically) in short order,
    • to have a well founded opinion of the 'drivers' that impact each individual gold mining company whose shares they invest in or trade. In particular, while it is trite, investors and traders should focus at all times on the fact that all companies within any given corporate sector 'are not created equal', and
    • to assess carefully whether the experience, the apparent common sense, apparent intelligence, apparent independence (or vested interest) of those who express opinions on specific corporate sectors or specific companies within those sectors, lend to or detract from 'commentator credibility' - and weight their commentaries accordingly.

 

We live in complex and difficult macro-economic times. Ultimately, whatever happens in the world and in country specific economies will influence the financial markets. A simple message: 'Do not be taken in by generalities, or by opinions that fail to provide the underlying significant assumptions (and logical support for those assumptions) that back up those opinions'. There is a lot of unsupported opinion to be found on the Internet and elsewhere.

Going forward, specific gold exploration companies, gold exploration and development companies, and gold mining companies may prove to provide excellent risk/reward investments or trades. That said, tread carefully, listen to and read much, be highly skeptical and cynical, and 'think for yourself' at all times - but particularly in the current economic and financial markets environment - before 'jumping off the diving board into the pool'.

 

 

Author: Ian Campbell

Ian R. Campbell, FCA, FCBV

post #34 of 307
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Gold’s having an identity crisis

Is the metal still a safe haven after losing 6% in May?

By Myra P. Saefong, MarketWatch

 

June 1, 2012, 12:01 a.m. EDT

 

 

 

 

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — If gold’s a safe haven, it certainly hasn’t been acting like one.

Gold futures (CNS:GCQ2) ended May with a loss of 6%, the metal’s fourth-straight monthly decline.

“We are in the midst of a cash crunch globally due to the banking issues in Europe,” said Vedant Mimani, lead portfolio manager of the Atyant Capital Global Opportunities Fund, a precious metals-focused fund based in Miami.

 

 

 
 
 

Why gold is no longer a safe haven

 

As worries over Europe continue to affect markets, investors are staying away from gold — at least for the time being. The WSJ's Deborah Kan speaks to Hong Kong Digital Editor Jake Lee.

“Whenever liquidity becomes problematic, such as it is now, assets will be sold down to meet loan and margin calls and get accounts back in line — and that is precisely why we are seeing gold sell off alongside other risk assets,” he said.

These days, any investment appears to be risky and it’s tough for investors to find safety in any asset, though the U.S. dollar and Treasury bonds have attracted more attention.

“People are rushing toward bonds, especially Treasurys, which push the U.S. dollar higher and gold lower,” said Chris Mayer, editor of Capital & Crisis.

All the while, gold has followed global equities, and other so-called riskier assets, lower.

“We’ve just gone through a period where everything has basically danced to the same tune and the Pied Piper was the U.S. [Federal Reserve’s] monetary policies, but that won’t continue forever,” Mayer said.

 

While some investors perceive U.S. Treasurys as a safe haven, they may be the “riskiest asset of all,” with holders poised to suffer “good-sized losses” in the event of a small jump in interest rates, Mayer said.

Still, as the euro crisis drags on, it’s clear that investors see Treasury bonds and the dollar as the safer bets right now, at the expense of gold.

Treasury prices have climbed, with yields on 10-year notes (ICAPSD:10_YEAR) , which trade inversely to prices, setting a record intraday low. The ICE dollar index (NYE:DXY) , which tracks the greenback’s performance against a basket of six major currencies, surged about 5% in May.

By contrast, the euro (ICAPC:EURUSD) dropped 6.6% against the dollar.

“Many investors used to confuse the euro for gold, buying the single currency just to escape the dollar,” said Adrian Ash, head of research at BullionVault. “This year’s dollar rally to date has confused a lot of traders again, only this time the other way around.”

All of which is taking a toll on gold’s safe-haven appeal. Gold’s “identity crisis still needs resolving,” said Ash.

 

And just what constitutes that identity remains a topic of debate.

Long term, many analysts still see the metal as refuge for investors, but some don’t think it is or ever really was one.

“Gold is an academically and historically proven safe haven over the long term,” said Mark O’Byrne, executive director at GoldCore.

And Peter Grant, chief market analyst at USAGOLD, says the notion that gold is falling, or has fallen, out of favor as a safe-haven asset is “completely misplaced.”

 

 

 
 
 

Are U.S. investors over gold?

Fewer investors are seeking out gold, and are looking to find comfort in U.S. Treasurys instead, Liam Pleven reports on Markets Hub. Photo: Reuters.

Data from the World Gold Council show a more than fourfold increase in bar and coin retail investment to 2011 from 2002. “Make no mistake — physical gold buying is alive and well,” Grant said.

Indeed, it was a safe refuge, he says, “even when the price was fixed at a ridiculously low $35 per ounce for nearly 40 years.”

 

Still, for gold in the short term, “there is also a proven correlation with risk assets,” said O’Byrne. That is because “more speculative market participants... often close all paper positions (including paper gold positions) when there is volatility and price falls in equity and commodity markets.”

Since late April, gold futures and the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJI:DJIA) have mostly moved in the same direction, though inversely to the U.S. dollar.

Gold does have “a bit of an identity crisis day to day,” said Edmond Bugos, director of mining finance at Strategic Metals Research & Capital.

But that “makes perfect sense because there are more people in gold this past year than who really understand it,” he said, explaining that “a lot of people were literally ‘scared’ into it last year, and .... the market has to consolidate to adjust.”

Gold rose 10% last year, its 11th-straight yearly climb, according to FactSet Research data.

Yet even with that track record, some analysts wouldn’t quite characterize gold as a safe haven.

“Money jumps from sector to sector for a variety of reasons,” said Darin Newsom, a senior analyst at Telvent DTN. “At this time, it is about the resurgent U.S. dollar index, faltering euro and getting out of commodities. The big three (gold, crude oil and corn) have all taken it on the chin in 2012.”

 

Cash rush

 

For now, investors have turned to cash.

Uncertainty in the euro has “created demand in dollars in the short term as European corporations are exiting the euro,” said James Carrillo, senior portfolio adviser for precious-metals investment firm Swiss America Trading Corp.

Remember that the dollar is still the world’s reserve currency so it is seen as a safe haven “despite its poor fundamentals,” he said. Added to that, “we are in the midst of the digestion phase of enormous long-term gains in gold.”

And gold can’t quite compete with the dollar or bond market.

“The market in gold is far too small to accommodate the capital fleeing Europe,” said Julian Phillips, an editor at GoldForecaster.com. “Gold is not seen as in the same category of liquidity or size so does not compete on this front.”

And until then, gold may be poised for further declines, to as low as $1,200, in Carrillo’s view. “Everything is debt- and liability-driven,” he said. “Gold has no debts or liabilities attached to it.”

 
 
 
 
 
 
post #35 of 307

We all KNOW why folks are staying away from GOLD......

 

WE are waiting to see if the cheating SOBs have unlimited ammo...........

 

They sell into every rise in the POG.

 

It's like WHACK A MOLE.

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Thanks six...nice being able to post charts and pictures huh?

post #38 of 307

I'm still trying to figure out HOW that works........

 

I get NRA mag... it has SOME good articles in it........ doesn't cut and paste well.

 

MY request to joing this group is still in progress...... I don't show up on the group members.

post #39 of 307
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six..here is your answer....

 

How to insert an updating chart or gif into a post....

 

http://www.hotstockmarket.com/a/how-to-insert-an-updating-chart-or-gif-into-a-post

 

there is a whole 'tutorial' down at the bottom of this page!

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