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Summer markets, bull or bear? (Poll)

Poll Results: How will the Summer markets go? (6 month time frame)

Poll expired: May 31, 2012  
  • 5% (1)
    Full on market crash!
  • 52% (9)
    Market correction
  • 5% (1)
    Flat
  • 35% (6)
    Rally back to all time highs
  • 0% (0)
    Dow 20,000!!!!!!
17 Total Votes  
post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 

Alright, so if there's already a sentiment thread for this summer....then just delete this. I didn't see one though.

 

But, just curious what everyone thinks is ahead for the summer (next 6 months or so)?

 

I'm personally bearish long term but I was thinking we still had more upside in the markets temporarily. Last month I was still bullish for May, although it is sell in May and go away.

 

However, I've been looking at the monthly charts more and more and not only does the S&P looked topped out here but the VIX looks like it's setting up for another breakout into the $40's.........

 

So yeah...post your thoughts! koolaid.gif


Edited by o7media - 5/7/12 at 10:31pm
post #2 of 33

Maybe this will help.smile.gif

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjcECxXNIPcKdEtxTC1qVUszRm1ac2YxaXg2a2NjTXc

This looks back at the past 10 years months up or down.

The main summer months I count the same up as down or 50/50.

monthsupdown.png

 

Within the next six months my more serious prognostication would be up.

I think this market wants to continue on the same path and have no technical charting

reason to think otherwise.

Same mid to long term channel is still being respected.

I refer to the monthly/weekly for this statement, not hourly/daily charts.

monthly.png

I have given a lot more analysis on my log and the "CountDownToBlastOff" thread.

 

I always thought May was known as bullish for this adage,

as in a good time to sell at highs for the year before going away.laughing.gif

Quote:
Last month I was still bullish for May, although it is sell in May and go away.

 

My two pennies.

 

Also I think you should have made this thread a poll. Not a lot of trouble for just a one time topic like this.

I think you can still goto "Edit Thread" a start one, but I'm not sure.

post #3 of 33
Thread Starter 

^^ Thanks Marcos, I added a poll. wink.gif

 

To be more specific, I'm looking at a correction.

 

Approximately a 20-22% drop in the markets which would result in the indices along these lines:

 

DOW 10,000 - 10,500

S&P 1,075 - 1,100

NASDAQ 2,350 - 2,400

 

Also the VIX is just under $19 right now. IMO it'll go back to the $45 - $50 level from here.

post #4 of 33

I'm in! 

"Rally back to all time highs"

 

I'm planning to be 33% out of longs if 1450 by that time.

And another on chance of farther...

The last third I will play it by ear.

Thats my plan.

Quote:
Originally Posted by o7media View Post

^^ Thanks Marcos, I added a poll. wink.gif

 

To be more specific, I'm looking at a correction.

 

Approximately a 20-22% drop in the markets which would result in the indices along these lines:

 

DOW 10,000 - 10,500

S&P 1,075 - 1,100

NASDAQ 2,350 - 2,400

 

Also the VIX is just under $19 right now. IMO it'll go back to the $45 - $50 level from here.

post #5 of 33

Market correction! Woohoo!

post #6 of 33

Market Correction.

post #7 of 33

correct this pos non fundamentally sound market

post #8 of 33

market correction

 

the monthly charts do look topped out to me. here on the s&p you can see we had a hanging man tweezer top to end last month, and for this month (albeit it's still early) we're already starting off with a lower high. a break of that 1357 (last months low) and i think this could see a pretty significant move down. then i think 1315-1300 could be here fairly easily... and lower levels would be applicable.

 

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same thing i'm seeing on the naz, tweezer top hanging man, lower high to start off this month, and we now have a lower low. although this month is still young, we did bust through and close below a big support line. uh oh... that is no good. this one could get ugly and fast. will be watching this real closely.

 

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i do think a 10-15% correction is quite possible here. we shall see. should be an interesting summer that is for sure. biggrin.gif

 

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great poll idea btw media! thanks.

post #9 of 33
Thread Starter 

wow all you guys saying market correction, starting to make me think otherwise laughing.gif

 

This is just an interesting chart, 25 year S&P and where we're at on this retracement....

 

j8yyax.png

post #10 of 33
m/c biggrin.gif
post #11 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by o7media View Post

wow all you guys saying market correction, starting to make me think otherwise laughing.gif

This is just an interesting chart, 25 year S&P and where we're at on this retracement....

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we are still in the large minority tho
post #12 of 33
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin1612 View Post


we are still in the large minority tho

 

True, true.

post #13 of 33
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by o7media View Post

^^ Thanks Marcos, I added a poll. wink.gif

 

To be more specific, I'm looking at a correction.

 

Approximately a 20-22% drop in the markets which would result in the indices along these lines:

 

DOW 10,000 - 10,500

S&P 1,075 - 1,100

NASDAQ 2,350 - 2,400

 

Also the VIX is just under $19 right now. IMO it'll go back to the $45 - $50 level from here.

 

 

Current levels:

 

DOW 12,369 (low of 12,336 today) -5.1%

S&P 1,295 (low of 1,292) -5.7%

NASDAQ 2,778 (low of 2,774) -6.2%

 

 

Looking for a move down to 1270-1280 S&P next week as major support. I'll exit any puts I'm holding there to see if we can finally bounce.

post #14 of 33

I've been tracking the percent differences from Jan. on this spreadsheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjcECxXNIPcKdGJBV2pCdFdObms5OXBPR3dOb1ZfeVE

percentdiff.png

 

If you like I can throw this in my Poll Result spreadsheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjcECxXNIPcKdGJPbnZZeVdIWWRGdE9uMUJwa1FCS2c

 

Just a thought, if Bigbear, Ichi, or anyone else would like me to track any HSM polls, no problem.

 

07Media with your permission of course, maybe as a start it can look like this.

I just picked the S&P day close on your post #1 date. Not sure of exact starting point in mind.

I can add all 3 index's too.

07poll.png

 

Let me know if you think it is a good idea, feel free to PM me.thumbup.gif

post #15 of 33
Markets heading lower, until proven otherwise! cool.gif
post #16 of 33

already a 9.55% correction from most recent highs to today's lows.. damn that was fast lmao spx goes up for 3 - 4 months then wipes all gains in half a month... there's something so funny about it lmao

 

take all ur money then appreciate the USD lmao that was a good one too.

post #17 of 33
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marcosx3x View Post

I've been tracking the percent differences from Jan. on this spreadsheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjcECxXNIPcKdGJBV2pCdFdObms5OXBPR3dOb1ZfeVE

percentdiff.png

 

If you like I can throw this in my Poll Result spreadsheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjcECxXNIPcKdGJPbnZZeVdIWWRGdE9uMUJwa1FCS2c

 

Just a thought, if Bigbear, Ichi, or anyone else would like me to track any HSM polls, no problem.

 

07Media with your permission of course, maybe as a start it can look like this.

I just picked the S&P day close on your post #1 date. Not sure of exact starting point in mind.

I can add all 3 index's too.

07poll.png

 

Let me know if you think it is a good idea, feel free to PM me.thumbup.gif

 

 

Ummm not really sure what you're trying to do, but go for it i guess lol

post #18 of 33

So I am the only one who picked "Full on market crash!"...what the?...I hate to say "I told you so" but....

post #19 of 33
I voted for flat -we should be in a range as wide as 1220-1460, and could see us at labor day anywhere in that range. I definitely feel this market wants very badly to make another good push. If we breach 1200 ... Then reassess core assumptions.
post #20 of 33

The market will rally to new highs. That's the only way this present administration has a chance of winning in Nov. I hope I'm wrong or that it won't make a difference. popcorn.gif

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