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post #41 of 53
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Out of JPM Put side of strangle for 50% profit.. in for 2X 0.80, out at 2X 1.20. Not exiting the call side of the trade in hope of a bounce here!

 

 

 

 

post #42 of 53
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@ BobK : The reason I dont put in my entry same day as my exit is because it clutters the space. Moreover, I RARELY do both entry and exit of a trade on same day. As an example, I could have said I entered strangle with MON four days ago and sold half as of yesterday (call side) and holding half, however, that would have made me make 3 trade entries as opposed to one. And then I am not sure when I will be closing the other leg, which makes the entry even more difficult, since it would mean I have to keep track of the page where I entered the entry point. So for convenience and ease of following this journal, I decided to make the post on the sell phase of the trade as opposed to the date of entering the trade itself. Also, I dont mean to make up numbers. This is a journal for myself as much as it is to share with the world. So if I cannot be truthful to myself, that means something is not right! 

 

For the sake of tracking your goal in this journal (since it's such a huge one), you'd add more legitimacy if you posted your entries.  Only posting when you sold is a little dodgy in my opinion.  Unless of course you plan to post a screen shot once this is all said and done.
 

 



 


I said that in the beginning Rock. It's so simple. Place the trade and post. Close the trade and quote the original post and add the closing price. We do it all day long in futures as he knows. Heck, I can make 5K a day easy. laughing.gif

post #43 of 53
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I said that in the beginning Rock. It's so simple. Place the trade and post. Close the trade and quote the original post and add the closing price. We do it all day long in futures as he knows. Heck, I can make 5K a day easy. laughing.gif

 

@ BobK, you dont have to be sarcastic about it. I am posting my entry of trades these days if you have not seen my recent posts. For example, I closed JPM today. here is the confirmation.

 

 

PM May 12 42.00 Put
41735034 2012/04/10 10:47:24 2012/04/10 10:37:07 Sell to Close 2.0 / 2.0 $1.23 Limit Day
 
I have other confirmations too if you want. Anyways got out of WFC Put. In @ Here is trade confirmation.
 
WFC May 12 32.00 Put
41739289 2012/04/10 11:16:25 2012/04/10 10:56:42 Sell to Close 2.0 / 2.0 $1.00 Limit Day
 
I was in the spread here was trade confirmation.
WFC Spread
41675156 2012/04/05 14:36:11 2012/04/05 14:36:10 Spread -- / -- $1.25 Limit Day
 
Anyways, if all you have are snarky comments, then I guess we both are wasting our times here. Just to post that trade confirmation took me in upwards of 5-10 minutes, and depending upon the number of trades I am doing, it gets prohibitively high, which is why as per advice of Rock, I just post my entry and when I am closing the trade, I post the exit price and profit/loss. 
 
In addition, it is not to say that I am not having losses. For example the BBY I bought today I am having huge loss, and all of the money I put in ($69) might just go waste. However, since I have not yet realized the losses (will realize the loss on April 20th), I will update the trade accordingly.
 
Either way, by the end of it all, if I do or dont achieve my goal, I will update the journal, along with all the trades done, and before/after postfolio screenshot. Until then I guess this is the way I choose to update. I am not even sure if I will get half way there, but I am trying my best. The way I see it, I dont have to brag about how good/bad I am doing. But I have to stay true to the journal because it is my trade journal and I am investing my precious time updating this. I just set a goal, and am trying to see if it is an actual possibility since very few actually attempt such a feat. I am beginning to realize that timeline wise, I might fall short. By how much, I dont know. So thanks for your support and keep reading. By the end of writing this post, I realized that sometimes, it is good to have doubters like you so that I have to take extra effort to keep this real! Thanks!

 

post #44 of 53
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Post market.. just got back from work.. and kicking myself for not holding MON longer.. could have been a doubler here

post #45 of 53
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Nice bounce today.. am glad I got out of my shorts yesterday.. will just play it safe today..

 

In GOOG spread @ 3.95. Also in STX Strangle @ 2.42. 

 

 

post #46 of 53
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Bought 3 CSC  may put options @ 0.5 each.

post #47 of 53
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I said that in the beginning Rock. It's so simple. Place the trade and post. Close the trade and quote the original post and add the closing price. We do it all day long in futures as he knows. Heck, I can make 5K a day easy. laughing.gif

 

@ BobK, you dont have to be sarcastic about it. I am posting my entry of trades these days if you have not seen my recent posts. For example, I closed JPM today. here is the confirmation.

 

 

I wasn't being sarcastic. I was just posting what you could do to make this a credible thread. Others have said the same. As I said in futures we just post opening price and then closing price at the time we trade. You want to make a big deal out of something so simple? Hold your mouse over the hour and minutes that the post was made and it will give you the exact time. This isn't rocket science.

post #48 of 53
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I wasn't being sarcastic. I was just posting what you could do to make this a credible thread. Others have said the same.



Sorry if I caused any misunderstandings. Thanks for your help in this regard. 

 

 As I said in futures we just post opening price and then closing price at the time we trade.  Hold your mouse over the hour and minutes that the post was made and it will give you the exact time. This isn't rocket science.

 

I didnt get the hold your mouse part. Looks like I am missing something super simple. One thing is, I rarely close the trade the same day trade is opened. Maybe that is what is keeping my posts from being simple enough to make sense? Either way, thanks for all your inputs. Maybe, going forward, I will do a weekly update with confirmations, along with my daily updates. That way, it keeps it simple enough for me and others to track, and adds credibility since it would be rather easy to tally. 

post #49 of 53
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Was reading through the threads in the forum and came across this really good thread by IchiBomb here..

http://www.hotstockmarket.com/t/180408/risk-management

 

I think the thread is a great reminder of how to manage risk  and importance of the same. Going forward, because of the aggressive nature of current trading, i think adding this metric will help me keep a good balance. So from today onwards, i will try and manage this metric as part of the  thread. I guess as part of the above thread, he advocates keeping tabs  on previous weeks following metrics.

 

Total trades, Wins, Losses, Profit Total, Loss Total, Profit Factor, Avg MFE, Avg MAE, e-ratio, Winning Percentage, Average Win, Average Loss, Expectancy, Max Profit, Max Loss

I did not keep a statistic of MAE/MFE for last two weeks or even  this week, but going forward, I will make a note of it. Also, I will only include the trades that have been closed, since sometimes, while you are in a trade,options tend to have high volatility and moves up or down dont mean anything till actual loss/profit is realized.

 

So as of today (end of last week), the following are my metrics.

 

Trades(closed) : APOL (put closed, call close to expiry, taking full loss here), STZ, JPM (Put closed), WFC (put closed), BBY (put closed, holding call, if call goes worthless will include it as loss in next weeks tally), MON call, MON put, GRPN, BBBY

Total trades : 20

Wins 9

Losses 1

Pending : 10

Profit Total : 196 + 210 + 41 + 35 + 14 + 70 + 60 + 48 :+ 270  = 944
Loss Total :  98(There are more losses out there, but the losses have not yet been realized. Paper losses but not including them until their options expire/trades close)
Profit Factor 844

 

Avg MFE ?

Avg MAE ?
e-ratio ?

 

Winning Percentage 9/(9+1)*100 = 90
Average Win : 944/9 = 104
Average Loss 98
Expectancy : 94.4 - 9.8 = 84.6
 
Max Profit 210 ticks
Max Loss 98 ticks

 

Thinking out loud here, One thing that I think is working in my favour is my ability to risk less than 10% per trade. Although I think, since the portfolio is getting bigger, I need to strictly adhere to this basic fundamental. What I am not doing consistently is refactoring the 10%. i.e. I am still rarely going for trades of greater than $300 (goog will be my first 300+ trade) although my portfolio dictates that I need  to start doing that to really compound the earnings I am making in previous trades. I will try and sit down this weekend and work out some rules/techniques so that I can say with greater confidence, as to balance the amount of money I put into each trade without hurting the overall portfolio itself. What will be exciting here is Avg MFE/MAE statistics as I would be tracking those going forward. Thing that works against me is my inability to enter and exit trades with perfect timings, since  I can rarely monitor my trades real time (except during lunch time and short brakes) during work hours which  puts me in somewhat disadvantageous state. However the stocks I am trading kind of give me that flexibility since I rarely plan a trade exit on same day I enter.  Another issue that I am seeing is, in previous attempts when I tried to do short term option trades, I was disciplined enough to balance the short/vs long side of the market. That way, irrespective of direction of the market, I could always make a good trade. This time, I think I am slightly overleveraged towards long side. One reason can be that maybe that is exactly where all the good trades are right now. Either way. Constant rebalancing and keeping my portfolio near neutral might help here and i will try to get there sooner than later. Either way, I will keep maintaining this page to see how i can hone my techniques to reach the lofty goal of the thread. Any suggestions are really appreciated.

 

 

 

post #50 of 53

200k in two months good luck lol 

 

If it helps my goal weekly is 1 million. Still trying to hit that goal hahahahaha

post #51 of 53
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200k in two months good luck lol 

 

If it helps my goal weekly is 1 million. Still trying to hit that goal hahahahaha


??? It is 20K not 200K!

 

post #52 of 53
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Out of ADTN May $30 call : in @ 1.30, out @ 1.70. out slightly earlier than expected. But for some reason, ADTN has always moved against the direction of expectation. So salvaging what I can here. 30% seems about as good as it gets. This has been a surprisingly slow day for me trading wise, even though looks like markets are soaring! Also out of JPM call with no profit no loss scenario (actually $1 profit).. Got into OVTI $21 calls @ 0.85


Edited by daytrader11 - 4/12/12 at 6:59pm
post #53 of 53
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Out of SVU.. in averaged down at (0.35 + 0.6)/2, out @ 0.6 with 3+3 options. also lost 100% of goog @ 395


Edited by daytrader11 - 4/13/12 at 6:35pm
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