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post #461 of 696
1/19/12 at 12:43pm

If SPXU goes down to $11 I think I will buy it.

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post #462 of 696
1/19/12 at 12:47pm
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I agree.

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Those are the same lines we are all watching, they might prove to be a little speed bump, but at the moment I have the feeling the markets are preparing for the "Eurozone is saved!" type headlines.

 

Regardless of what they bake up about Europe being fixed, things will still be worse behind the scenes and we will be lower.

 

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post #463 of 696
1/19/12 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by daande View Post

If SPXU goes down to $11 I think I will buy it.



Again I ask why are you looking at this particular position (an ultra short S&P) if you see a pullback to 1300 and a rally. I'm just trying to figure your logic here since it would be a contradictory position if that really is your outlook (not saying I agree or disagree).

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post #464 of 696
1/19/12 at 12:52pm

anyone got thoughts/opinions/idea's for GOOG earnings?

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post #465 of 696
1/19/12 at 12:52pm

Because we cannot just drift higher to 1350-1400 levels we need profit taking and we need the shorts to be sucked in.  Blow off the top occurs when you have a big event followed by short coverings that will push us higher imo.  We dip then rip if that makes sense.

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post #466 of 696
1/19/12 at 12:54pm
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anyone got thoughts/opinions/idea's for GOOG earnings?



Short RIMM

 

EDIT: That was a joke now that I think about it, its actually a good idea with AAPL and GOOG earnings. 

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post #467 of 696
1/19/12 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by marcosx3x View Post

This is like the second time in a row that good job numbers rallied the day before the release.
I'm no conspiracy nut, but I do think the big money players are not getting info from Finviz, Stockcharts, CNBC or even Bloomburg. I think with all that dough they have the most state of the art technology and other far superior means and price in news days/weeks even months before the majority is privy.
Or am I just crazy?

You are crazy if you DON'T believe big money uses all information and power at their disposal to their exclusive advantage. Any donations they make to charities or other similar recipients is solely to maintain good standing with the public, while they continue to take your money. Exhibit A: the existence of legal wealth transfer, aka fiat currency.
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post #468 of 696
1/19/12 at 12:56pm


I would laugh so hard if Google earnings were horrible but they say things will get better once they buy RIMM for a huge premium and beat Apple's iphone LMAO

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Short RIMM

 

EDIT: That was a joke now that I think about it, its actually a good idea with AAPL and GOOG earnings. 



 

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post #469 of 696
1/19/12 at 12:59pm

ya i do, but its a hard choice at this time.  -- i wanna say miss however the holiday season and revenue generated from that is hard to see a miss.
 

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anyone got thoughts/opinions/idea's for GOOG earnings?



 

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post #470 of 696
1/19/12 at 12:59pm

We broke out of the downward channel so I removed the channel lines.  All I'm left with are fib lines.  The thick lines are drawn from 2007 highs to 2009 lows and the skinny ones are May 2011 to Oct. 2011 lows.  I thought the 130.8 level would have provided more resistance but that has not been the case.  I guess an overshoot to 132.4 is in order then.  I'm bracketing into a short position here as the low volume is suspicious and there are gaps left to be filled.

 

Derp.bmp

 

Something I've been thinking about.  SJE has mentioned in the past that Financials need to rally alongside any up move for that up-move to be believed.  Looking over the JPM earnings I wonder if Dodd Frank has changed the game to the point that Financials will not be the pillar of strength they were in the past.  I think we're a couple of quarters out from validating that theory but I thought I should just throw it out there.

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post #471 of 696
1/19/12 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by charulz View Post

anyone got thoughts/opinions/idea's for GOOG earnings?



My guess is that they should be quite good. Did you see this article?

 

http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/01/18/oracle-believes-google-makes-10-million-annually-from-daily-android-activations/

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post #472 of 696
1/19/12 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by daande View Post

Because we cannot just drift higher to 1350-1400 levels we need profit taking and we need the shorts to be sucked in.  Blow off the top occurs when you have a big event followed by short coverings that will push us higher imo.  We dip then rip if that makes sense.



Yes, but what you don't realize is that that inverse ETF is going to increase in value on that pullback. So in order for it to go to $11, the S&P would have to rise higher than we have been since it's low is at $11.40. Sure if it pulls back then, it would increase in value, but if the market then rallies to 1350-1400, you would be looking at a negative return holding long that inverse.

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post #473 of 696
1/19/12 at 1:02pm


didn't they have some problems with the MMI acquisition? im leaning bullish for earnings but so many companies have been getting killed w/ earnings

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ya i do, but its a hard choice at this time.  -- i wanna say miss however the holiday season and revenue generated from that is hard to see a miss.
 



 



 

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post #474 of 696
1/19/12 at 1:13pm

yes they did however as far as i know they resolved all of that.. Also you have to take into account the recent expansions into russia etc..

 

this is GOOGLE man.. like SPARTA!

 

its kinda like that ATT Tmobile crap.. i knew that wouldnt pan out and be denied.. Tmobile got a sweet ass fee cuz of that and knew it also.  but goog and mmi didnt have the same structure in terms of contact.
 

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didn't they have some problems with the MMI acquisition? im leaning bullish for earnings but so many companies have been getting killed w/ earnings



 



 

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post #475 of 696
1/19/12 at 1:37pm
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anyone got thoughts/opinions/idea's for GOOG earnings?

I'm thinking I should go long 150 shares. I don't know if maybe I should instead go long 100 and short 50 though... I don't have much info as to how they'll perform.
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post #476 of 696
1/19/12 at 1:41pm
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I'm thinking I should go long 150 shares. I don't know if maybe I should instead go long 100 and short 50 though... I don't have much info as to how they'll perform.


lol, then you would be long 50 assuming you bought and shorted at the same entry.

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post #477 of 696
1/19/12 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by Venom08 View Post


I'm thinking I should go long 150 shares. I don't know if maybe I should instead go long 100 and short 50 though... I don't have much info as to how they'll perform.


lol, then you would be long 50 assuming you bought and shorted at the same entry.

Yea. Lol, I'm stupid. I'm thinking long stock and puts as insurance. Any reason for me to go long though.
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post #478 of 696
1/19/12 at 1:47pm
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Originally Posted by Venom08 View Post


I'm thinking I should go long 150 shares. I don't know if maybe I should instead go long 100 and short 50 though... I don't have much info as to how they'll perform.


Sounds like a solid trade man, you dont see many going with a straddle on commons!

 

Now where is that karma button

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post #479 of 696
1/19/12 at 1:51pm

I went long some Jan12 NFLX 100 calls but i sold short some NFLX Jan12 100 calls as a hedge

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post #480 of 696
1/19/12 at 2:16pm
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I went long some Jan12 NFLX 100 calls but i sold short some NFLX Jan12 100 calls as a hedge



 

What do you guys think about this data?

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