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post #41 of 83

ok troll.. continue with your balenced perception on all matters in life (joke)

Ya sure your far from a dem.. must be a retarded liberal then, with such trite comments and a narrow minded perception. Ya im joking after the fact lmao... uh huh..

 

Ah im the only one, perhaps you need to read what people post instead of skimming.. yep you sure do care what others say apparently.. not.  Anyways whatever.. so piss on someone elses leg.. GL.

post #42 of 83

Moving on... well between Romney and Obama .. i dont think im voting.  Depends on who Romney picks as his VP.

post #43 of 83

MJ ... Your angst with Romney is completely warranted, he's just "Obama Lite"! But ... if given a choice between him and Barry ... don't you think Romney would be less destructive? We're still 7 months from the elections and a LOT can change. Romney isn't even half way to the required number of delegates, regardless of how the media spins it that the race is over! Ron Paul has a devoted base of delegates that the general public is totally unaware of; but the talking heads don't want to say anything that might derail the Romney train and put the the R3volution into high gear. As much as I dislike Mitt Romney, I hate Barry Soebarkah! If it came to a race between Sobarkah and Romney, I would vote for Romney just to make damn sure Barry couldn't finish shredding our Constitution. Both parties are corrupt to the core and although Dr Paul is running as a Republican, his roots are in the Conservative/Libertarian/Constitutionalists ranks. He has always been one step ahead of the competition by lining up delegates in advance who are 'dedicated' to his campaign. It's not "chiseled in stone" that  delegates can't change their mind at the last second. There's been a Great Awakening since the 2008 election and people are quickly realizing that Ron and Rand Paul are the only honest, consistent, dedicated politicians left in Washington, DC.  The Democrats are counting on Romney being nominated because of his inconsistencies and "Jekyll and Hyde" approach to literally every issue. BHO would easily rip Romney to shreds in a debate! Ron Paul has remained unchanged and undeterred in his message and intends to restore our Constitutional Rule of Law and abolish the Patriot Act, rescind the NDAA, audit the Fed..etc..etc, and BHO wouldn't have any way to fight such a spotless record. Ron Paul would rip him apart! But if Paul doesn't get nominated, a vote for Romney is the only alternative. Romney might make us sick, but another four years of ObaHomo will definitely kill us!

post #44 of 83

if Ron Paul had a chance.. hands down i would cast my vote for him.. without thinking twice.

Im just tired of pick between the two bags of crap.. i mean Gingrich would of been better than Romney lmao.

post #45 of 83
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Originally Posted by mjoke View Post

if Ron Paul had a chance.. hands down i would cast my vote for him.. without thinking twice.

Im just tired of pick between the two bags of crap.. i mean Gingrich would of been better than Romney lmao.



I think some of his positions are a little too radical which will prevent him from getting elected but, he has my vote.

post #46 of 83
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Spoken like a true Republican.

I do know  a Little about autism and its not p oven that vaccines cause the disease.  Now they say their are links to men having children at a late age in life increases your chances of having an autistic child. Regardless of the reasoning the problem still exists about health care.  We have vaccines to save us from dreaded diseases that are inevitable if we do not vaccinate our children.  Your lucky that most of us  vaccinate their kids so your kids are not exposed to the live virus since they are not vaccinated. Your point is valid , but i do not agree.

I sure hope my daughter is learning at college we spent enough of our money to send her.  I know she has several professors who are quite intelligent.

Your ideas about how the health care system will work when it goes full force in 2014 is just bunk.

Being a republican and attacking Bill Clinton about his morals is laughable.

Yea, and lets all stop taking birth control in America like Santorum thinks.  Ha ha, I think after all the republican immoral behavior was exposed why would you go there? 

Your racist comments i will try to ignore. But still i am offended by them, being an American and christian. You sound intelligent.  Most people who are racist  because they need to have someone they can say are beneath them.  Tell me what family of 4 can afford private Health insurance what world do you live in my friend.

Anyway i appreciate your reply and i just disagree because i care about people and and social injustice.


The biggest problem with the middle and lower class is they tend to live at or above their means.  Give a middle class family an extra $10k a year income and guess what....  Instead of increasing their health, disability, life insurance or retirement contributions.  They are out buying a newer car, eating out more, making home upgrades, buying better Christmas gifts, etc.  No one is to blame but themselves.  

 

post #47 of 83
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Originally Posted by Crazed98 View Post

I think some of his positions are a little too radical which will prevent him from getting elected but, he has my vote.


At least Ron leans toward the "radical" side of personal freedoms and preserving the Constitution.

I would prefer Ron Paul as our POTUS but my vote will go to ANYONE besides Barry Soebarkah!

 

 

post #48 of 83

im considering a run for next term :)  lol

 

The peoples person..  (or something)

post #49 of 83
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Originally Posted by concerned View Post

Spoken like a true Republican.

I do know  a Little about autism and its not p oven that vaccines cause the disease.  Now they say their are links to men having children at a late age in life increases your chances of having an autistic child. Regardless of the reasoning the problem still exists about health care.  We have vaccines to save us from dreaded diseases that are inevitable if we do not vaccinate our children.  Your lucky that most of us  vaccinate their kids so your kids are not exposed to the live virus since they are not vaccinated. Your point is valid , but i do not agree.

I sure hope my daughter is learning at college we spent enough of our money to send her.  I know she has several professors who are quite intelligent.

Your ideas about how the health care system will work when it goes full force in 2014 is just bunk.

Being a republican and attacking Bill Clinton about his morals is laughable.

Yea, and lets all stop taking birth control in America like Santorum thinks.  Ha ha, I think after all the republican immoral behavior was exposed why would you go there? 

Your racist comments i will try to ignore. But still i am offended by them, being an American and christian. You sound intelligent.  Most people who are racist  because they need to have someone they can say are beneath them.  Tell me what family of 4 can afford private Health insurance what world do you live in my friend.

Anyway i appreciate your reply and i just disagree because i care about people and and social injustice.


Nice try! You're probably "maybenow" posing as "concerned"! She hasn't been around for nearly 6 months

and you write in the same illogical, Liberal, broken text that she was well known for. Bush bashing, Obama

and Clinton praising, lack of common sense and an obstinate demeanor were her "trademarks" by default!

 

There is also evidence that "links" being a Liberal ... to mental illness!  duh.gif

What "morals" did Bill conveniently forget while Monica was on her knees?

Since when is using "descriptive terminology" to identify BO being "racist"?

The entire content of your reply was patently disingenuous and patronizing.

Liberal "social injustice" is being created by the FRAUD in the White House.

post #50 of 83

hey hey i liked Clinton.. he wasnt a complete dope.

 

Funny thing about healthcare.. rather than have a forced mandate upon everyone and their mother... why not make cross state policies applicable, therefore making it competitive.

the prices would drop faster than anyone would be able to predict. The issue with sectors of the country needs to be dropped in order to establish any real price or affordability equilibrium and that inst imposed by the government.  I believe it will not pass or be enforced, or they will strip it of a portion which will render the rest null and void.

post #51 of 83
I am, and always have been, a conservative and cannot understand why the modern age liberals want this government to be so out of touch with reality, want so many new regulations and welfare programs, and are overall anti-business and capitalism. And the level of hypocrisy on the left is ridiculous, and don't get me started about how much they shaft the "poor and middle class" whom they so say they care about. Haven't you ever wondered why the richest people in congress are all democrats? And then they lecture me about giving my fair share when 50% of Americans, a majority probably all left-wingers, pay no income taxes. Get Buffet to abide by his phony "Buffet Rule" and get General Electric to pay its taxes before lecturing the Americans who actually contribute to society and pay taxes to pay even more. I could go on forever but it's no use, it'll only matter when I'm out voting against Obama in November.
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I am, and always have been, a conservative and cannot understand why the modern age liberals want this government to be so out of touch with reality, want so many new regulations and welfare programs, and are overall anti-business and capitalism. And the level of hypocrisy on the left is ridiculous, and don't get me started about how much they shaft the "poor and middle class" whom they so say they care about. Haven't you ever wondered why the richest people in congress are all democrats? And then they lecture me about giving my fair share when 50% of Americans, a majority probably all left-wingers, pay no income taxes. Get Buffet to abide by his phony "Buffet Rule" and get General Electric to pay its taxes before lecturing the Americans who actually contribute to society and pay taxes to pay even more. I could go on forever but it's no use, it'll only matter when I'm out voting against Obama in November.


I was just thinking about something along those lines today... Back before I got into trading I was thinking of starting a taxi service back in my home town, a college town, which would have been pretty lucrative, and created jobs in my community. But, because of all the excessive regulation, the start-up cost would have been almost an entire year's salary (I was a pizza delivery guy back then). So, thanks to all those left-wing regulations, I elected to be more selfish and get started in trading, and NOT provide jobs and health insurance and Christmas bonuses to others. laughing.gif I'm an independent, so I can be more objective and unbiased in my observations, so what I saw in my particular case was the left keeping me from achieving something better. In effect, keeping the poor, poor. Seems to me that if you're part of the problem you preach against, then you have no right to point your finger at anyone but yourself. (You being the democrats, not you personally Venom...) 

 

Like I've said a few times in other threads and on other boards, I'd really like to see a 3rd moderate party get some traction. The two sides used to be a lot more united when my dad was a kid, but in recent times they've become more and more separated from the middle and it's tearing the country apart. Obviously not all republican and democrat politicians are extreme, but more and more of them are becoming extreme, and that is what disturbs me. 

post #53 of 83


 

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Originally Posted by Crazed98 View Post


The biggest problem with the middle and lower class is they tend to live at or above their means.  Give a middle class family an extra $10k a year income and guess what....  Instead of increasing their health, disability, life insurance or retirement contributions.  They are out buying a newer car, eating out more, making home upgrades, buying better Christmas gifts, etc.  No one is to blame but themselves.  

 

 

 

I believe your right in most instances.  However in my case i am debt free in every instance . If i can not pay cash for something i do not get it. I certainly do not expect anyone else to live by my rules.  I know many people who make 10 times as much as we do an are not able to save a dime. They are all mortgaged up the @#$.  If they loose their job they will loose everything on this lavish lifestyle. So its not just a middle class problem. I have family members who make 10 times more than we do ,and still when the chips are down come us us for money . That includes homes cars and everything paid in full. But i am crazy worried about this health care problem being a cancer survivor and not being able to get insurance if something should happen and i have a pre existing  condition , if i am not able to work and insure my family and  my husband is self employed.  No insurance there. time to lay down and die or loose a;ll of our retirement savings when we did everything right .  No way.  I would rather die.

post #54 of 83

2 shea When you called OUR President a halfrican ,this description was a racial slur.  I know that my computer skills leave something to be desired ,and i do not claim to be the most eloquent writer. I do not know what your reference to another poster was about.  I can tell you i am not that person. Anyway, i think i made my point.  I hope you will forgive my typing errors and my bad grammar.i can see your writing skills and grammar is much better than mine.

post #55 of 83

Also i would like to add your description of the sex act that Monica  decided to willfully as an adult have with the President.  I get the picture big deal .  Like Kennedy was any better. And i can go down the line of Presidents who were good Presidents and have had problems in this area .They are not priests.and i do not condone such behavior. Which was broad casted on TV in such a way that my young children at the time asked me about this oral sex . And what it was . I was so angry at the republicans and the media for this explicit exposure which was totally unnecessary.

post #56 of 83


 

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2 shea When you called OUR President a halfrican ,this description was a racial slur.

I can call YOUR pResident anything that fits his description. He called himself a MUTT at the 1st press conference!

He doesn't meet minimum requirements to be POTUS, therefore I refuse to acknowledge his authority in that capacity.

Barry is a narcissistic, race baiting, communist, homosexual, radical, usurping FRAUD and should go to prison for life!

 

 

 

post #57 of 83
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I believe your right in most instances.  However in my case i am debt free in every instance . If i can not pay cash for something i do not get it. I certainly do not expect anyone else to live by my rules.  I know many people who make 10 times as much as we do an are not able to save a dime. They are all mortgaged up the @#$.  If they loose their job they will loose everything on this lavish lifestyle. So its not just a middle class problem. I have family members who make 10 times more than we do ,and still when the chips are down come us us for money . That includes homes cars and everything paid in full. But i am crazy worried about this health care problem being a cancer survivor and not being able to get insurance if something should happen and i have a pre existing  condition , if i am not able to work and insure my family and  my husband is self employed.  No insurance there. time to lay down and die or loose a;ll of our retirement savings when we did everything right .  No way.  I would rather die.


 

That is a tough situation, there are available health insurance options for you though.  I know I pay more for my life insurance because of a pre existing condition I have.  I don't see why someone who is completely healthy rich or poor should pay more because of my issues and visa versa.  

post #58 of 83

this is why i feel we need universal healthcare in American we should be able to do better than the Europeans but we do not. 

post #59 of 83

Also i do not believe in life insurance. 

post #60 of 83

crazed98  I have to say.  I think anyone who votes republican who does not make a 6 figure income is just dumb.  I think i expressed myself the best to my ability about our need for universal health care and that the richest 2 % of all Americans should pay their fair share.  We can not expect to fix our economy on the backs of the middle class cutting programs that are helping our middle class working people so a few fat cat misers can count their millions and say i am the most powerful Oz.  We can not expect our kids to loose pell grants, and for the hard up Americans to lose medicaid.  I say medicare for everyone is doable. These are life saving necessary programs not lavish lifestyle programs. Oh yea, and the environmental protection agency is necessary or we will all be poisoned to make a profit.

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