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I've got an even better one!  Let's act like this is a relevant political issue so we can convince thousands of voters to support, campaign and vote for our political candidates. 

 

I guess we'll just have to hope they never catch on to the fact that we probably won't ever do anything about it. 

 

Voting for Bush because he was pro-life was just about as good of reason as voting for Obama because he's black. 

 


yea thats pretty selfish an ignorant...there are much bigger and relevant national and global issues

and i meant using that as a voting reason wink.gif
post #22 of 43

lol can have a few drinks, open word, and create something also

 

Maybe it will be the obama approval ratings.... oh wait they already did that.

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^^^
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random numbers from a random source at best


 

post #23 of 43
ok then use ur imagination...lets see what you come up with...gotta be better than this so far
post #24 of 43
Thread Starter 

Google & Double Click have F'KD up this web site

Lost my response - not going to bother again.

 

 

Get your own research.

 

 

 

 

F'K this.

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so none of you question the source of the numbers.... Where is the source tech?


 

 

 


Tech rarely posts his sources. It all comes from a secret database funded by the Koch Brothers.

 

post #26 of 43

Can you share your google search query with us?

 

Was it "compare apples to oranges?"

post #27 of 43

ya i know what its like to have your post butchered by the refresh on the site.. eh.   im trying to post the link... but doesn't want to paste it lol.

I just post and then edit,

 

 

http://www.nrlc.org/Factsheets/FS03_AbortionInTheUS.pdf

 

Right to life issues including abortion, euthanasia and infanticide.

These statistics are reported by the Alan Guttmacher Institute:

 

 

 

 

Listen, i think its china you should be up in arms about...

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/wrjp3310.html

WORLD TOTAL, 1922 - 2010: 863,000,000 reported abortions, estimated 950,000,000 total abortions  *atleast do it from a world perspective.

 

or

 

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_abo-health-abortions

 

there are ur goog queries

 

I dunno all seem within the range of probability and error.

Also a certain percentage wernt healthy, or the parents couldn't afford to have another child   - cant really say all of those are clear. but i will say i dont like the late term ones which shouldnt be allowed after 9 weeks or close to the third trimester but this also depends on "your" perception. In the end its the womans right to decide, other than that, i cant really speak for any numbers associated, as its all twisted to the parties perspective but the right to choose remains a clear ideal.


Edited by mjoke - 4/22/11 at 3:20am
post #28 of 43

Maybe the next conservative president will nominate some activist supreme court justices to overturn Roe vs Wade.

 

 

 

...Wait, what?

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I've got an even better one!  Let's act like this is a relevant political issue so we can convince thousands of voters to support, campaign and vote for our political candidates. 

 

I guess we'll just have to hope they never catch on to the fact that we probably won't ever do anything about it. 

 

Voting for Bush because he was pro-life was just about as good of reason as voting for Obama because he's black. 

 




yea thats pretty selfish an ignorant...there are much bigger and relevant national and global issues



and i meant using that as a voting reason wink.gif


I probably should have clarified that too.  I meant purely as an issue that is something they could or would even want to have an impact on the elected politician.  I definitely see the pro-life argument as to why not only is it moral but also that we should make it illegal. I think the reality is that stance to idealistic.  The consequence are to much.  The implication for our welfare and entitlement system, just the huge moral consequence of an unwanted child growing up in predominately poor areas.  The black market for abortions just like every other illegal trade.  It seems like IMO it is more moral to allow early term abortions and put severe restrictions on late term abortions, preferably only if the mothers health is in danger. 

 

But no matter what I believe I think that over half this country is in favor of abortion being legal up to the second trimester.  Not only that but it has been set in judicial precedent for decades.  Most republicans presidents have selected judges who wouldn't even give an opinion on Roe v. Wade during confirmation hearing. 

 

post #30 of 43
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One would think Republican, or rather TRUE conservatives would appreciate abortions. It less people on welfare.

 

 


The people that should be getting abortions aren't for the most part.

 

The welfare people pop out baby after baby to get a bigger monthly check. Most of the people getting abortions from what I can tell are the people who'd actually raise a decent, production kid. They just don't want the hassle at the moment. 

 

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The people that should be getting abortions aren't for the most part.

 

The welfare people pop out baby after baby to get a bigger monthly check. Most of the people getting abortions from what I can tell are the people who'd actually raise a decent, production kid. They just don't want the hassle at the moment. 

 


 

Very Good point, and your is most likely more accurate then mine. But I think we both are dealing mostly in generalizations. 

post #32 of 43

There hasn't been ONE documented case of a woman's life being saved by having a "late term" abortion...

There are MILLIONS of documented cases of a CHILD losing it's life at the hands of an abortion "doctor"...frown.gif

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There hasn't been ONE documented case of a woman's life being saved by having a "late term" abortion...

There are MILLIONS of documented cases of a CHILD losing it's life at the hands of an abortion "doctor"...frown.gif


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There hasn't been ONE documented case of a woman's life being saved by having a "late term" abortion...

There are MILLIONS of documented cases of a CHILD losing it's life at the hands of an abortion "doctor"...frown.gif



Here is one case.

 

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2009/06/12/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life

 

How many abortion doctors lives have been taken or threathen? I have always found it interesting that some many people main cause is to protect life will resort to violence.

 

And the other thing that I was found so freakin interesting is the you far far rightwingers go kicking and screaming everytime there is a mention of government intruding into your life or to actually have so form of gun control. But you just fine with the government being able to tell woman what they have to with their bodies and lives.

post #35 of 43
yea ^^^...just pointless...esp when you are dealing with irrational and fanatical people
post #36 of 43

I do think it'd be even more fair to parents if newborns could be considered fetuses for a couple weeks after birth and could be legally dispatched of if they ended up being more trouble than the mothers were expecting.

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I do think it'd be even more fair to parents if newborns could be considered fetuses for a couple weeks after birth and could be legally dispatched of if they ended up being more trouble than the mothers were expecting.


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or maybe even into the teen years when they tend to become unmanageable...unless we get control back of how and to what extent we can discipline...mad.gif
post #38 of 43

You're absolutely right!...I used the wrong terminology....I SHOULD HAVE SAID:

 

There hasn't been ONE documented case of a woman's life being saved by having a "Partial Birth" abortion...

 

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post #39 of 43
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Partial Birth Abortion is when the baby's head is yanked part way out of the Vagina and then it is CRUSHED.

 

 

 

 

If the baby were to accidentally slide all the way out during the "Procedure", that would constitute murder..... Really.  It the law.

 

 

 

Before you attack.....

I really DO NOT give a Rat's Ass if you kill your children. REALLY!   I Don't!  Go ahead and kill all you want.

But don't make plays on words to make it sound like a different thing has happened!

 

DON'T PISS IN MY FACE AND CALL IT A WARM SPRING RAIN.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #40 of 43

All these abortions wouldn't be necessary if simple population/welfare control methods were in place...tubes tied and vasectomy's done at the onset of puberty for all boys and girls...they could then screw each other to their hearts delight and no one would be the worse for it. Then later on if anyone wanted a kid they would have to get a license to breed, pass a parenting course and get a reverse operation to unclog the pipes...biggrin.gif

 

 

/sarcasm

 

 

 

-w

 

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