True Motives of the Tea Party?

[vlandsponger]

Originally Posted by KingJaffeJoe

I'm not sure whether you were calling me an idiot, or BO. Either way, you should go back and refer to the simplest of children's dictionaries and teach yourself how to spell fascist.

ohhhhhhhh typo.....error...........one time.....im a complete moron now....those single word notes i wrote on my palm smudged up so i didnt know how to spell it...

Obama is a "fastshithead"...thats what it looks like now...I'll re-write it although I like how it looks now

atleast it's not word for word from someone elses mouth right...?

Originally Posted by KingJaffeJoe

You, sir, are the idiot.

are you trying to saying he wasn't a fascist leader entirely or just during his first few years?


oh and I'll correct myself...I stand by OBAMAS words:

"But individual actions, individual dreams, are not sufficient. We must unite in collective action, build collective institutions and organizations.”

here I'll try and comply with your definition of a debate:

heres a link:
"Obama's Philosophically Fascist State of the Union Address"
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=35474

[Baggi]

Originally Posted by KingJaffeJoe

I'm not saying neither.

Now i'm really confused.

You're saying both?

[mjoke]

Next ill hear being a "far right" or "far left" doesn't qualify you as a extremist view.

[Baggi]

Originally Posted by mjoke

Next ill hear being a "far right" or "far left" doesn't qualify you as a extremist view.

It doesn't. Even being extremist doesn't qualify you as such.

Not because people aren't extreme in their views.

Instead because we throw language around to say how we feel about someone rather than to give any actual facts.

For example, you may hate a woman so much you call her a whore, even though she might be a virgin. The term isn't meant to be descriptive, it's meant to display to others how you feel about that particular woman.

If you support Obama, you probably believe that Tea Party folks are far right. It has nothing to do with whether or not they are far right, it's just a way to describe how you feel about that.

Calling someone far right or far left is meaningless today. We've abolished the true meaning of language in our culture and give it no significance. This is due to something called subjectivism. Whatever you think or feel is what's real, it's all opinion, their are no facts.

Sad really, makes communication difficult.

[mjoke]

Far right, extreme right, hard right and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. The terms have been used by different scholars in somewhat conflicting ways.[1]

The ideologies associated with the far right are fascism, Nazism, racial supremacists (especially neo-fascists and neo-Nazis group), religious extremists, and other ultra-nationalist or reactionary ideologies and movements.[2][3][4][5][6] The terms are often used to imply that someone is an extremist.

The term far right has been used by some, such as National Public Radio, to describe certain authoritarian governments that promote free market capitalism, such as that of Augusto Pinochet in Chile.[7][8] The BBC has called politician Pim Fortuyn's politics (Fortuynism) "far right" because of his policies on immigration and Muslims.[9]


Far Left
Some political spectrums (e.g. the Political Compass, consider there to be a distinction between an economic far left (communism) and a social far left (anarchism).[1] The ideologies usually associated with the social and economic far left are forms of anarchism particularly forms of left anarchism such as anarcho-Communism, libertarian socialism and social anarchism, collectivist anarchism, and anarcho-syndicalism.[citation needed] Groups associated with the economic far left include Leninism, Trotskyism, Marxism-Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, and Hoxhaism, and some branches of socialism such as revolutionary socialism and Titoism.[citation needed] Groups associated with the social far left include feminism, particularly anarcha-feminism, and some branches of green politics such as green anarchism, anarcho-primitivism, and veganarchism and some forms of pacifism such as anarcho-pacifism


Distinguishing Far-leftist groups from centre-left and very left-wing groups can be hard as the general meaning of far left is confusing. Some groups considered to be far left do not wish to govern within the current institutional framework of a state, though this is not always so as some extreme or very left-wing groups govern within the constitutional framework and take part in the democratic process to either achieve their goals and further their aims or because they see it as beneficial that the will of the people.[citation needed] What distinguishes these groups from other centre-left and very left-wing groups such as democratic socialists, social democrats, liberals and mainstream Green parties is that the latter are officially unwilling to be unconstitutional and tend to respect the authority of the state; only some of their members may be willing to be seen as participating in violence (such as riots or armed revolution) or in peaceful illegal activity (through forms of protest and civil disobedience).[citation needed] Far left groups, in contrst, are willing and prepared to officially disobey the laws of the state and go against its constitutional authority and be seen as subversive by rebelling either violently through riots and/or armed revolution or peacefully through civil disobedience


Not getting into this discussion but .... I think its more than used still by the political pundits, let alone applicable in todays society and still very prevalent; its still a part of the game. Just funny how some try and soften it, or pretend their views dont fall in line.